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    • #38982
      Leo
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      I have a Scarlet 2i2 interface and Pro Tools from the online University I’m attending but I can’t make any sense out of it so far. It’s for a future class so I havent learned anything yet.

      Is there any simplified way I can use this to just practice with headphones? I don’t have a practice amp with a headphones jack (not where I live right now anyway, I have some gear stored far away after moving) so I was thinking of putting this stuff to use. I’m lost.

      I really just want to set it up for practicing with headphones, with options to tune into some distortion would be nice. Has anyone done this who can direct a newbie?

      • This topic was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by Leo.
    • #38988
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      There are basically 3 ways to do guitar-DAW stuff.

      1. you plug your guitar into your amp. you plug the output of your amp into the scarlet. configure protools to use the scarlet as it’s audio hardware device (this is a very confusing step because very protools is confusing). add an empty “audio” track to protools. Set the input of the audio track to the channel you plugged into.

      if your amp does not have a headphone output or aux out (or you dont have an amp), you can’t do #1.

      2. you plug your guitar into your amp. you plug the usb cable of your amp into your computer. configure protools to use the guitar amp as it’s audio hardware device. add an empty audio track to protools. set the input of the audio track to guitar amp.

      in this situation, the amp is the interface. but again if you have no USB capable amp, you can’t do #2. If you can do #2 someday, which is my favorite method, and if you have a mac, you can create an audio device in macos called “aggregate device” which will group both the guitar amp’s usb audio channel and the scarlet device, so you can have multiple hardware devices under one software group, to record or playback to/from any of them.

      finally the one you will probably do (no amp, just interface):

      3. you plug your guitar directly into your scarlet interface with a guitar cable. (this will result in 100% clean guitar tone). you might need to hit a toggle button on your scarlet which says “instrument/mic” (it adjusts the signal level). configure protools to use scarlet as it’s hardware device. add an empty “audio” track to protools. set the input of the audio track to be the proper scarlet interface channel (“1” or “2”). arm the track for recording (i.e. red button) and set record monitoring. at this point, verify you have clean guitar sound into the track by watching the level meters, you should see them bounce (if not, check all preceding steps). Now listen for your guitar in the headphones, if you do not hear it, play with all the knobs on the scarlet front panel until you hear something (scarlet’s are different from each other, some have monitor-mix switch, and volume knob). If you dont hear clean guitar in headphones, check all preceding steps. Now to add distortion: on the audio track there will be some small icons like “empty slots”, if you don’t see them, go to the view menu to show them, right-click them to add an inline plugin, choose some guitar amp/distortion effect plugin (depends which protools you have, for the bundled ones), etc. This should also popup the small plugin window with all the knobs etc to tweak sounds. In summary the clean guitar will go into protools, then through that plugin to give you the amp sound, then out to the headphones.

      Once you get all of this working, save the protools project, also you can save it as a “template” so you can load it up in the future and all the settings will be there, ready to start something new.

      It sounds like you will be using method #3, so that’s the general idea for how it works. I can’t stand protools so I have tried to forget everything I learned when having to use it last year 😀 youtube has lots of walkthrough videos to clarify each of these options, especially on #3, try searching “protools guitar vst tutorial” or something like that.

      The most important thing to know about protools is that there are 2 application windows (also, protools is totally confusing and broken, so if you find yourself lost, consider that normal). When you open protools and start “New project”, you will see the main window, “Edit window”. But there is a second big window which you can shift to, called the “Mix window”. Obviously, having 2 app windows for a single workspace is totally broken software design, which no other app does, but that is how protools works. You toggle back and forth between these windows using command-= shortcut. So if you find that everything disappears like “wtf just happened to all my work! it’s gone!” then try that.

      Note, when you add tracks in protools, you do not want “instrument” track, you want “audio” track. (One of a thousands ways protools is broken/confusing)

      Save/print this for protools shortcuts.
      http://resources.avid.com/SupportFiles/PT/Pro_Tools_Shortcuts_2019.10.pdf

      Finally.. when you are done with all protools projects, uninstall the app, delete everything from avid on your computer (including the awkward/broken license manager), and switch to Reaper.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #38990
      Byron
      Participant

      I have…Pro Tools from the online University I’m attending ….

      My condolences.

    • #38991
      Byron
      Participant

      Seriously, though. You don’t need to mess with any DAW for this. Just use whatever amo sim you like in standalone mode.

    • #38999
      pipelineaudio
      Participant

      The new amplitube 5 free version will do this. Reamp standalone might. Not sure if Tonelib GFX has a standalone, but that one is super efficient like the Reamp one

    • #39000
      Igglepud
      Participant

      Superblonde has it pretty well covered:

      1. Plug guitar and headphones into Scarlet
      2. Configure Pro Tools in/out to use Scarlet (probably in preferences>audio, you might have to select a driver as well)
      3. Create and arm audio track

      MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

    • #39002
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      What’s the links to those free vst sites? There is one focusing on free guitar amps isnt there?

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #39006
      Leo
      Participant

      Alright thanks so much for all the feedback. I’ve got the hang of this and have a really nice rock sound coming from my headphones. And lots of tools to play around with now.

      I didn’t even know I could use guitar pro to be honest, with the interface together. How little I know surprises me sometimes but it also keeps me motivated.

      Thanks again everyone. I wish I had gotten this interface sooner because it feels like it will be really beneficial to my practice. I definitely recommend trying something like this if you haven’t. Just be careful about spending too much time tinkering and not enough time practicing. You guys did save me lots of time by answering my question so thanks again.

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