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  • #22300

    superblonde
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    My fellow guitarist has a couple wireless units that are really much neater to play with than I expected, so I was looking into wireless again. Did you guys know some wireless will (“must”) cease to operate in 2020.. certain UHF systems. I remember this from long ago because, the FCC wants to recycle the old reserved TV station bands into new data wifi bands (a simplification, but, basically). At least now I know what not to buy – especially for used gear, in case someone is trying to ditch their old setup before the cut off date.

    It says wireless mic’s but that also means wireless guitar too.

    https://www.fcc.gov/general/wireless-microphones-0

    The FCC allows the use of wireless microphones on a licensed and unlicensed basis, depending on the spectrum band, technical characteristics, and user eligibility. Most wireless microphones that operate today use spectrum in the TV bands – that is, the VHF and UHF bands allocated for television broadcasting – which has included TV channels 2-51, (except channel 37). Wireless microphones also may operate on other spectrum bands as well.

    Changes beginning in 2017 concerning operation on 600 MHz frequencies. Beginning in 2017, the amount of TV band spectrum available for wireless microphone use is decreasing as a result of the incentive auction, which was completed on April 13, 2017. A significant portion of the TV band spectrum in the 600 MHz band, including most (but not all) of the spectrum on TV channels 38-51 (614-698 MHz), has been repurposed for the new 600 MHz service band for use by wireless services, and will not continue to be available for wireless microphone use. Specifically, wireless microphones that operate in the new 600 MHz service band (the 617-652 MHz and 663-698 MHz frequencies) will be required to cease operation no later than July 13, 2020, and may be required to cease operation sooner if they could cause interference to new wireless licensees that commence operations on their licensed spectrum in the 600 MHz service band. FCC 14-50, FCC 15-140, DA 17-314 Spectrum will continue to be available for wireless microphone use on the other TV channels 2-36 (TV band frequencies that fall below 608 MHz), on portions of the 600 MHz guard band (the 614-616 MHz frequencies) and the 600 MHz duplex gap (the 653-663 MHz frequencies), and in various other spectrum bands outside of the TV bands. FCC 15-100, FCC 15-99

    Bands outside of TV bands that are available for wireless microphone use. In 2015, the Commission provided for new opportunities for licensed wireless microphone operations in spectrum outside of the TV broadcast band, including in the 169-172 MHz band and portions of the 900 MHz band, the 1435-1525 MHz, and the 6875-7125 MHz bands. Unlicensed wireless microphone operations are permitted in several bands outside of the TV bands, including the 902-928 MHz band, the 1920-1930 MHz band, and portions of the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. FCC 15-100

    I was looking at avoiding the digital 2.4 Ghz wireless systems because my fellow guitarist’s system has a conflict with his new bluetooth guitar amp, if one is on, the other doesn’t connect or vice versa. There’s too much stuff in 2.4 Ghz and will keep getting worse with more bluetooth and wireless stuff all around.

    I’d be interested to hear what anyone is using or sees being used currently.

    I suppose there’s some magic reason why a wireless Shure guitar system is like $1500 to $3000, meanwhile a home theater wireless A/V (and with 2x audio channels to send stereo) for a tv or video camera or home security camera is like $199.

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  • #22301

    Curt Kingston
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    I wish I could help you but I play mostly venues like clubs, bars and small theaters and I am always hardwired. I use two Whirlwind Multi-selector 4x rack units, one is a backup (always have a back up). I run four guitars to one output, my pedal board. I also use a Whirlwind A/B box on my pedal board so I can switch to a backup amp. Oh, and a metric butt load of gaffers tape. I like the piece of mind that cables give me. That’s one less thing I have to worry about failing during a show.

    In the end I hope you find what works for you, bud. Good luck.

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  • #22309

    Igglepud
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    I have a UHF system that I am really happy with. I don’t plan on stopping its use.

    MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

  • #22313

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    I’m not sure but it might be that the next gen 5G phones will use some of that band. So ultimately there could be enough annoying static or blips in that expired UHF gear, to make it unusable. Hmm, according to tmobile, “The generally accepted target date for 5G is 2020.” It will take several years after that before people will get 5G phones though. Remember the previous phase of 2G where the cell phones would make random bleeps and blops into any nearby audio equipment.. really destroyed the ability to record cleanly.

    Hmm yes I remembered correctly.

    One tiny detail could majorly delay T-Mobile’s 600MHz rollout

    One tiny detail could majorly delay T-Mobile’s 600MHz rollout

    Chris Mills @chrisfmills
    August 29th, 2017 at 2:33 PM.

    T-Mobile is moving at speed to deploy an LTE network in the 600MHz spectrum it purchased this spring. Just months after it gave the FCC $8 billion for new spectrum, the first 600MHz site is live, and the network plans to cover 1.2 million square miles in spectrum by the end of the year.

    That’s a start, but it’s only a start. In order to deploy 600MHz across the nation — the end goal here — dozens of TV stations are going to have to change frequencies, off 600MHz and onto new spectrum. … Five to seven years, versus three, is a huge deal for T-Mobile. Deploying equipment to have nationwide 600MHz coverage within three years is crucial to its long-term strategy. By then, we can expect to see 5G coverage start to creep in, and that 600MHz network will be vital for providing consistent high-speed data anywhere, even in the most remote and rural locations.

    I have an old UHF wireless mic system somewhere. I’ll have to find it. If it’s in that band I’ll be selling it sooner rather than later.

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  • #22320

    MotleyCrue81
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    Choose wireless systems wisely!

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