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    • #38161
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      I used to do work and music in separate ways. 1. computer and daw work at a computer desk. 2. piano playing at a piano. 3. guitar playing standing up or on a couch (I dont like playing guitar in a chair that much..seems to mess with my hip and knee).

      Now since lockdown the computer and electric piano are on the same location and same desk and it is killing my neck, my shoulder, everything about the ergonomics of trying to have a combined piano + computer desk is a disaster. Not to mention this takes up all the room where I’d previously play guitar, yuck.

      I drew out some sketches of building myself some kind of piano desk maybe with sliding computer keyboard (& trackpad) tray underneath so typing and piano would both be possible. Actually it seems impossible because an electric piano is the same exact spot where a computer keyboard should be. This really seems to be a big ergonomic problem especially for recording engineers.. who use piano and DAW simultaneously. Either the computer keyboard & mouse needs to be on a separate slide-out below the piano keyboard, or the piano needs to be on a slide out try below the low computer desk. Quite the mystery…!

      I found this neat sketch related to piano ergonomics:

      Piano_Benchheight

      The other problem is the placement of music on the piano, which is behind and at eye level.. exactly where the computer monitor should be. So then the monitor has to be mounted higher, so it is not blocked by sheet music or a piano book on the piano. But then the monitor is too high for anything close to good ergonomics. The monitor is also placed too far back for easy reading, because a piano keyboard is so deep. (A lot of things about the design of pianos seem outdated.)

      One thing for sure is that my neck is going to be permanently kinked if I dont get an improved setup.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

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    • #38165
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      Ever thought about a drum throne for a playing chair or computer chair? Could be pretty hip and comfy too. This whole furniture thing got me looking into what’s best to sit on. Considering the number of hours of practice put in, it makes sense to have a really sweet chair doesnt it? (and no it doesnt mean a bar stool even if gibson or marshall have a logo on it)

      This is just one generic guitar char I found. I have to admit the drum thrones which are motorcycle seats, and pneumatic, those are totally sweet looking. For this one in the pic, the killer feature is that foot rest… save the hip and stop crossing the legs to support the guitar..!

      musicians-chair

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

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      1. musicians-chair.jpg

    • #38167
      rightonthemark
      Participant

      yeah. i’ve thought about getting a drum throne for playing guitar while sitting.
      as for propping the foot up…i always use a strap; even when sitting.

      rock and roll ain't pretty; that's why they picked us to play it.

    • #38169
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      MAB is a proponent of playing in classical guitar sitting position and using a small foot stool for one foot. Chromacast makes one that he uses recently. Maybe he gets more vertical angle on the neck this way, for his anatomy measurements (more of a long leg / short torso, I think). I guess it depends on the guitar too, and where the guitar cable comes out, if the jack points the cable out the bottom edge (which never made sense to me for that reason).

      Bizarrely some high level classical guitarists seem to have problems playing later in their careers because of hip and neck problems, the hip from not using a footstool and neck from constantly craning to look at their fretting hand.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #38176
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      The biggest improvement hack to my existing desk has been putting my monitor on a lazy susan. Works so conveniently, I can rotate around to any angle, not bad for a 99 cent store purchase 😀

      So far I settled on building a standing desk and then I can somehow find a tall bench to use for seating if I want. Then I can be at a good height for standing playing, or sitting playing, or computer stuff. Plus eventually some kind of monitor arm for lots of arbitrary tilt adjustment.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #38177
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      Most hip & interesting comment of the month

      “I have a barstool and put a motorcycle peg on it for my foot”

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

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