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    • #38112
      icefire
      Participant

      So the first time I heard this song I wanted to do a full cover – all the piano and guitar parts. Once I heard it live (in February – Hammerfall were on tour and that was one of the last concerts before the coronavirus lockdown) I was 100% sure I’ll try and figure it out.

      There is a tab uploaded to ultimateguitar.com which I don’t find particularly accurate but it still helped a lot for the guitars. The piano parts I transcribed 100% by ear (and using an app called riff station which slows down the song).

      So.. here it is..

      I really wanted to follow superblonde’s advice to not constantly look at my hands but… alas… it is difficult… at least for me… sorry guys you’ll be looking more at the top of my head than my face (maybe it’s better this way :D)

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    • #38113
      rightonthemark
      Participant

      wow.
      that was awesome.

      rock and roll ain't pretty; that's why they picked us to play it.

    • #38119
      Rob
      Participant

      Fantastic!!

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    • #38126
      icefire
      Participant

      Thanks guys.

      There are no effects added to the piano part, this is how my Yamaha Clavinova sounds. The guitars are a different story. I recorded them best I can, then I duplicated the rhythm track in Reaper, pitch-shifted it one octave lower and used an EQ plugin to leave only the low frequencies there and so I tried to make up for not having a bass guitar in the mix.

      The drums are taken from the fairly inaccurate guitarpro tab but I think they are good enough.

      I am really unhappy with the quality of the guitars recording. I am using a Peavey Vypyr VIP 1 modelling amp which has a USB port and an audio interface function. Reaper recognizes it as a recording device but the quality of the recordings flat out sucks. Maybe I should get a separate audio interface and use it for recording…

    • #38128
      rightonthemark
      Participant

      if you can record the guitar clean thru the vyper you could add eq; distortion; and other fx during mixing.
      there’s plenty of good free options out there.

      rock and roll ain't pretty; that's why they picked us to play it.

    • #38131
      icefire
      Participant

      Yes, I could do that. I have never tried it because I am not sure how “special effects” would turn out like some slides or pinch harmonics… If I play clean then I’d have no acoustic feedback if the pinch harmonic turned out right or how the track would sound when edited… Is this how you record?

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    • #38135
      rightonthemark
      Participant

      using reaper most amp plugins can be used while recording. not sure why i said to add it during mixing. just run your guitar clean thru the amp’s interface and have an amp sim in the fx box of the track you’re recording on and dial up the sound you want. one nice thing is after recording you can still tweak that amp sound if you want during the mixing.

      https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2012/02/21/bpb-freeware-studio-best-free-guitar-amp-simulator-vstau-plugins/

      rock and roll ain't pretty; that's why they picked us to play it.

    • #38136
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      One thing I learned in an audio mixing clinic this past year is that the reverb effects should match each other, i.e. not be stacked on top of each other. Like, guitarpro adds reverb to each instrument, and then a reverb to the master, and that’s like having each instrument on it’s own room and then the final mix in yet another room. So the advice I believe translates to removing reverbs from instruments (including piano’s built-in reverb) and using only 1 reverb across the entire mix, put on the master, so that everything sounds as if it is in the same space. (So I dont know why guitarpro adds reverb on each instrument, it’s strange.) The exception might be drums which might have their own small reverb effect across all the drum tracks.

      I agree with ROTM, record the guitar clean using the amp, add the guitar amp-sim or pedal effects as plugins (but put the reverb only on the master).

      Excellent playing.

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