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    • #38170
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      The surprising fact about finger economy is that some people dont seem to need much of it to play well, and in some cases at shred speed. MAB recently posted a video of a new player who I believe has been playing under 3 years, that video is at the bottom. What’s to make of this, the players who can play solidly or even amazingly, yet they play with spider fingers?

      First up is Andy James. Amazing guitar player. Finger economy? Well.. maybe not so much. In fact never uses his pinky, ever. His finger motion recently is much improved but the older videos (1990s?) were like.. spider-city.. omg.


      Andy James Guitar Lesson On Pentatonic Scale Shredding – iGuitar Magazine feature

      This next one is an artist I support on patreon, very creative and celebrated by fans, but the finger economy, umm whaaa? ..this is an older video where it is much more obvious since she’s improved a bit since then..


      Sarah Longfield – Jason Becker Altitudes Sweep Solo

      And here’s MAB’s recent collab video.. which by the way, compare the finger motion to Vinnie Moore! (amazing)


      Unbroken (feat. Cait Devin, Vinnie Moore, Andy James and Michael Angelo Batio)

      As for my own playing, I found that my finger economy improved dramatically when I started playing all the exercises in Speed Kills 1 every day at no faster than 50 BPM. Actually it continues to get better the more back-to-back days I play through the SK1 exercises at under 70 BPM. The downside is that it takes a long while to “visibly” notice progress (over months), and running thru these exercises for a long time at these slow BPM’s every day takes discipline. I would go so far to challenge even Andy James himself to follow this SK1 regimen and see what happens 😇

      What I personally make of it is that these players have ridiculous real “natural” talent. And that talent allows them to surpass normal limitations. Although they could get even better still, with SK1, which is even more amazing.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #38171
      rightonthemark
      Participant

      vinnie moore plays with UFO now.

      rock and roll ain't pretty; that's why they picked us to play it.

    • #38172
      rightonthemark
      Participant

      when i read “finger economy” i imagined fingers walking in and out of stores.

      rock and roll ain't pretty; that's why they picked us to play it.

    • #38173
      Igglepud
      Participant

      An economy where fingers are currency…🤔

      I hardly ever use my pinky. When I practice drills, I use it all the time. Hardly ever when I rock out.

      Speaking of drills, in the 2009(?) version there is an awesome drill Doug teaches that walks each finger up and down the fretboard. I can’t find it. Anyone know where it is? I thought it was in Stage 4.

      MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

    • #38175
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      If you are looking for Doug’s crazy diagonal pattern, that one is in Stage 5. In the shreddy part of the course. If you mean the one he names by the finger fretting (“This exercise is called, 02432 0232432” or something I always forget the name lol, I just play it) then it is in the early part of the course, like Stage 1, as one of the first warmups. But for me, I did this exercise a lot, and it doesn’t focus on the pinky enough to give me that finger independence.

      I don’t remember if the common “one finger per fret, 4 finger chromatic vertical walk” pattern is in the older course, but Doug has it in the latest course, somewhere after the pentatonic zone I think (not completely sure at the moment). Speed Kills 1 though ends with the four fret / four finger exercise (or starts with it..cant remember which, I do the dozen or so of those exercises in my own order). I really wanna emphasize that there is absolutely nothing like Speed Kills 1 for transforming finger motion if the entire set of the exercises done every day for several months.

      I really consider myself lucky to have seen Vinnie Moore on his solo tour a few years ago, wow, independent of his music, watching his hands was just insane. Highly recommended…. Zakk Wylde on his solo tour as well, lol I was so close up front watching his fingers, he was sweating on me haha. Absolute kings of tight finger economy and speed.

      Somewhere in one of MAB’s recent youtube videos (this month), where he is doing live streaming Q&A, MAB does something crazy like independently moves each joint of each finger. Including ring finger. What.. 🤯 .. what kind of magic is this..! The ring finger being, normally, that finger with the mind of it’s own.. There should be a set of exercises for doing that somewhere. It could be done without a guitar, just as a hand exercise. Every so often I run across a guitar video demonstrating some kind of rare finger exercise (like drumming fingers on tabletop, that kind of thing etc) but from my vague attempts they haven’t improved playing guitar or playing speed like Speed Kills 1 has.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #38182
      Igglepud
      Participant

      The diagonal one, and thanks! I still can’t find it, but I’ll keep looking.

      MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

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