HomeForumsGuitar InstructorsI Want to install a Floyd rose onto my Esp ltd ec-1000 cant find a locking nut

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  • #21033

    Anonymous

     

    I want to install a Floyd rose onto my esp ltd ec-1000 but I can’t find a locking nut is it necessary what are your guys suggestions

  • #21035

    pipelineaudio
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    Ebay has tons, otherwise ask allparts or Rondo, or if you want to spend big money, go to floyd upgrades. Nuts aplenty!

  • #21036

    Anonymous

    Thanks

     

  • #21037

    pipelineaudio
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    Most people are going to tell you go to Stewmac, but I think nowdays there are many many many options they don’t have, but it is HARD to go wrong with Stewmac, here’s their floyd page

    http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Bridges_and_Tailpieces/Bridges_and_Tailpieces_for_Electric_Guitar/Floyd_Rose_Tremolos/

    I always have good luck with Dragonfire, but make sure its the height you want, they come in different heights

    http://www.dragonfireguitars.com/String-Nuts_c136.htm

  • #21038

    safetyblitz
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    You’ll still be able to play without a locking nut, but it won’t stay in tune as well as it would with a locking nut. And if you do exteme dive-bombs, the slack strings can hop out of their slots on a non-locking nut.

    You could always install a Floyd without a locking nut for now, and if you decide you don’t like it, you can add a locking nut later.

    The very pricey Guthrie Govan signature model from Charvel has a locking bridge (with no fine-tuners) and no locking nut. So it’s not entirely unheard of to set a guitar up that way.

    If you do decide to get a locking nut, you’ll need to be careful about the dimensions. Be aware that locking nut widths and string spacings are not standardized across manufacturers, even among nuts that are nominally “the same size” (R2, R3, etc). I broke down the specs of a bunch of the widely available ones on a spreadsheet once (don’t have it handy, sorry), and was surprised how much variation there was. Measure the width of your actual fingerboard at the nut, and try to find a nut that is close to the same width (slightly smaller than your neck width is better than slightly larger), and has string spacing that won’t put the outside “E” strings too close to the edge of the fingerboard.

    Also pay attention to how much clearance will be left between the bottom of the locking nut and your truss rod adjustment nut once the locking nut is installed. On some necks, you’ll need to use a “bullet” style locking nut that has a little arch milled out of the bottom to make room for the truss rod adjustment nut.

  • #21039

    MotleyCrue81
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    Basically.. if you want a locking nut, you’re gonna have to remove some wood. safetyblitz is right, there is a PDF or something on the Floyd Rose site that lets you see the specs of their locking nuts.

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  • #21040

    MotleyCrue81
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    I see that’s a les Paul style guitar with a fixed bridge. If you want flush mount, you’re gonna have to route a bit of wood off the body.. you’ll also need to route out the spring cavity in the back of the body. Not sure how much experience you have with routing into finished guitars but you’d need a lot of skill to pull it off cleanly.

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  • #21041

    safetyblitz
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    I see that’s a les Paul style guitar with a fixed bridge. If you want flush mount, you’re gonna have to route a bit of wood off the body.. you’ll also need to route out the spring cavity in the back of the body. Not sure how much experience you have with routing into finished guitars but you’d need a lot of skill to pull it off cleanly.

    I didn’t realize the starting point was a hardtail guitar. Yeah, routing out the spring cavity and the hole for the trem block is major surgery. If you already have woodworking experience, it’s certainly doable, but be sure you really know what you’re getting into before you attempt this.

    The Les Paul style positioning of the pickup switch also means there’s a channel hidden under the wood for the wire to run to the switch. I don’t know how deep it would be, but something else to be aware of if you start removing wood from the back of the guitar.

  • #21042

    MotleyCrue81
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    I would honestly just buy a guitar with a Floyd in it haha.

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  • #21043

    Igglepud
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    On the locking nut, you don’t want to play a Floyd Rose without one. It’s what keeps the guitar in tune through all those crazy bends. It will still go out of tune with a locking nut, but without one it will go out of tune very, very quickly.

    Like Motley said, just buy one pre-installed in a guitar. You probably love the ESP, but odds are unless you pay to have this done (and even then it’s iffy), the guitar is going to get hurt and end up less playable. Also, if this is your first Floyd Rose, don’t add it to a guitar you love unless you know for a FACT that you love the Floyd Rose bridge.

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