Strange songwriting moods

[superblonde]

I’m going over this song I wrote really in the spur and rush of the moment on monday eve and I keep thinking: “who the heck wrote this?” Actually it was me that wrote it. (not intending this in a bad way – just, it seems a very different person that wrote it)

Do you guys else get these strange “Huh?” retrospectives when looking at something written previously even tho it might have been very recently? I am guessing so?

It is even more interesting because I followed Doug’s songwriting process pretty closely and fast this time, took a new song that I found I kept replaying over and over, took it’s form, transcribed it’s drum beat, rewrote the lyrics (sang in slightly modified melody), sang over top of the original track then replaced the drums with new track and new guitar rhythm part, changed the key, etc. So I know exactly where it came from, in fact all the pieces are in my Reaper project. Yet I have no idea where it came from. Super funny, right?

I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

[rorygfan]

Play it back on your stereo then see if Shazam finds the riff or melody in its database and then you will know who you ” stole” it from. Lol.

[Igglepud]

I don’t ever feel like I write my stuff. It always seems like the song is already written and I just find the parts and assemble them.

MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

[Sarah Spisak]

Music already exists in the ether.  We just channel it and bring it onto the physical plane.  🙂

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[Igglepud]

+1

MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

[superblonde]

new video by jack white live, he explains how he wrote lyrics for 12 songs on someone else’s instrumentals, for their album

Jack White – “The Rose With The Broken Neck” Live at The Pink Garter Theatre
Published on Dec 8, 2016
Live acoustic performance of “The Rose With The Broken Neck” by Jack White at the Pink Garter Theatre in Jackson, WY from April 23rd, 2015 (evening show) during the Acoustic Tour. The original version of “The Rose With The Broken Neck,” featuring lyrics by Jack White and music composed by Danger Mouse and Daniele Luppi, is found on 2011’s acclaimed ROME album.

He also mentions the metaphor of letting god do the work i.e. channel thru him etc. Maybe he’s simplifying for a story or maybe he really believes this, I dunno.

This is a bug in human nature- To appeal to an unseeable, unknowable external force or being, as the source of creative inspiration or output, when in fact it is the person themselves doing it all, internal to themselves.

rorygfan wrote:

see if Shazam finds the riff or melody in its database

This is a really good idea. It could be part of the songwriting process, used as a handy tool.

I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

[Sarah Spisak]

superblonde wrote:

This is a bug in human nature- To appeal to an unseeable, unknowable external force or being, as the source of creative inspiration or output, when in fact it is the person themselves doing it all, internal to themselves.

We ARE the unknowable force.  It is not external.  When we go “within”, we approach it.  🙂

 

Metal Method Guitar Instructor

[rorygfan]

One thing about Shazam I found using it to discover new bands and songs was if used in public say a noisy bar or restaurant, the ambient noise can confuse it and not ID the song.  Another limitation id cover bands doing songs, unless the recording was part of the database, it also will choke and fail to ID the song.  AI or additional algorithms which recognize chord structures and lyrics even played and sung by the non original artist could be implemented in the future and could be used to over come the current technology limitations.  I am sure the authors are way ahead of me on this and in couple more years better versions.  One more thing, I also find it cumbersome to capture the song quickly enough if you have to initialize the app, and get it running and most of the song has played… I have lost quite a few tunes because my primary attention was conversing with someone and need to interupt to turn the app on and point it at the sound source.  Anyway, its a cool piece of software.

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