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  • #3187

    Anonymous

    Hi. At the end of Stage 1 Doug tells us to find a song to start working on while starting Stage 2. He also says to come here to get a lead on this (excuse the pun). Can anyone help me out with a suitable tab that matches the skills for this stage? I know you must have been asked this a million times  – sorry. Thanks, Jim.

  • #3188

    metalj
    Participant

    We just did a thread on songs hopefully someone will post a link to it. I suggest if you have an android device getting ultimate guitar app. Second get monster power chords from metal method.

    Jay aka the letter J

  • #3190

    Will Flaherty
    Moderator

    I always suggest Brown Eyed Girl by Van Morrison, if it’s not too far out of your taste range. It’s only four chords G, C, D and the occasional Em. It’s good for practicing your chord changes. I copied this from the old thread. Originally posted by Superblonde.

    Stage 1 Black Sabbath iron man
    Stage 1 Black Sabbath Any songs
    Stage 1 Black Sabbath Paranoid
    Stage 1 Black Sabbath Trashed
    Stage 1 Black Sabbath war pigs
    Stage 1 Cheap Trick California Man
    Stage 1 Cheap Trick I Want you to Want Me
    Stage 1 Grand Funk Railroad Got this Thing on the Move
    Stage 1 Iron Butterfly In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
    Stage 1 Judas Priest Breaking the Law
    Stage 1 Judas Priest Electric Eye
    Stage 1 Judas Priest Living After Midnight
    Stage 1 Judas Priest The Ripper
    Stage 1 KISS Any songs
    Stage 1 KISS Black Diamond
    Stage 1 KISS God of Thunder
    Stage 1 KISS I still love you
    Stage 1 KISS Lick It Up
    Stage 2 AC/DC Back in Black
    Stage 2 AC/DC Hells Bells
    Stage 2 AC/DC Shot Down in Flames
    Stage 2 Aldo Nova Fantasy
    Stage 2 Black Sabbath Iron Man
    Stage 2 Black Sabbath Paranoid
    Stage 2 Black Sabbath War Pigs
    Stage 2 Boston More Than a Feeling
    Stage 2 Cheap Trick Dream Police
    Stage 2 Cheap Trick She’s Tight
    Stage 2 Cheap Trick Surrender
    Stage 2 Cinderella Somebody Save Me
    Stage 2 Deep Purple Smoke on the Water
    Stage 2 Fastway Say What You Will
    Stage 2 Fastway Say What You Will
    Stage 2 Iron Maiden Powerslave
    Stage 2 Judas Priest Breakin’ the Law
    Stage 2 Judas Priest Electric Eye
    Stage 2 Judas Priest Living After Midnight
    Stage 2 Judas Priest United we Stand
    Stage 2 Judas Priest Grinder
    Stage 2 KISS Detroit Rock City
    Stage 2 KISS Detroit Rock City
    Stage 2 KISS Lick It Up
    Stage 2 Metallica Fade to Black
    Stage 2 Metallica For Whom the Bell Tolls
    Stage 2 Metallica Seek and Destroy
    Stage 2 Montrose Space Station #5
    Stage 2 Motley Crue Knock ‘Em Dead Kid
    Stage 2 Motley Crue Knock ‘Em Dead Kid
    Stage 2 Motley Crue Looks that Kill
    Stage 2 Mountain Mississippi Queen
    Stage 2 Nirvana Come As You Are
    Stage 2 Nirvana Milk It
    Stage 2 Offspring Amazed
    Stage 2 Offspring Gone Away
    Stage 2 Ozzy Osbourne Crazy Train
    Stage 2 Pink Floyd Another Brick in the Wall (pt2)
    Stage 2 Poison Play Dirty
    Stage 2 Priest Living After Midnight
    Stage 2 Quiet Riot Come On Feel the Noize
    Stage 2 Quiet Riot Metal Health
    Stage 2 Ratt Round and Round
    Stage 2 Ratt You’re In Love
    Stage 2 Scorpions Coming Home
    Stage 2 Scorpions Rock You Like a Hurricane
    Stage 2 Sum 41 Fat Lip
    Stage 2 The Beatles Baby It’s You
    Stage 2 The Offspring Amazed
    Stage 2 The Offspring Gone Away
    Stage 2 The Scorpions Rock You Like a Hurricane
    Stage 2 Thin Lizzy Killer On the Loose
    Stage 2 Twisted Sister We’re Not Gonna Take It
    Stage 2 Volbeat Heaven Nor Hell
    Stage 3 AC/DC You shook me (all night long)
    Stage 3 Cheap Trick Dream Police
    Stage 3 Cheap Trick She’s tight
    Stage 3 Cheap Trick Surrender
    Stage 3 KISS Deuce
    Stage 3 Manowar Metal Daze
    Stage 3 Metallica Fade to Black
    Stage 3 Metallica For Whom the Bell Tolls
    Stage 3 Metallica Kill em all
    Stage 3 Metallica Ride the lightning
    Stage 3 Metallica Seek and Destroy
    Stage 3 Ozzy osbourne Any songs
    Stage 3 Pink Floyd Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)
    Stage 3 Queen Mississippi
    Stage 3 Van Halen Women in Love
    Stage 4 AC/DC Shot Down in Flames

  • #3318

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    I always suggest Brown Eyed Girl by Van Morrison

    That’s a great idea.. it’s a popular cover for restaurant/bar bands around here too.

    Here’s an easy song getting radio play right now and a great song lesson posted on youtube for it by “MunsonMusicLive” (if only all song lessons were produced this well it would be great!):

    In the End (LINKIN PARK) Guitar Lesson How to Play Easy Strum How to – Em D C G

     

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #4116

    Retro51
    Participant

    Easy beginner songs I still play and recommend.

    Knocking on Heavens Door

    House of the Rising Sun (play full chords, arpeggios or finger pick)

    Sex and Candy (super easy with power chords- ck Nirvana version too)

    Maggie May some good chord practice

    Your Song another good one to finger pick or play full chords

    Dock of the Bay

    Anything by Buddy Holly or John Denver

    If you want an easy riff- oriented song try find Going to Louisiana by Savoy Brown although Foghat had a version too.

    Sunshine of Your Love for the riff

    Holy Diver power chord riffs

    Come as You Are bass riff and power chords

    City of New Orleans I love this song both for finger picking and chords.  I think I learned the John Denver version.

    Proud Mary another good one for chords

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • #4215

    Retro51
    Participant

    Glycerine by bush. You can do it different ways. Power chords and distortion or acoustic chords.

  • #6307

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    This is another I’m going to look at adding to my list.

    Stage 2 Megadeth I’ll Get Even

    slow tempo, power chords, open chords.

    The other thread on this topic is http://guitarlessonforum.com/guitar-forums/topic/song-for-stage-1

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #9452

    rorygfan
    Participant

    In case the above variety is not enough I might add:

    Montrose- Make it Last
    Mott The Hoople- All The Young Dudes, Rock N Roll Queen
    David Bowie- Jean Genie
    Lou Reed- Sweet Jane, Suffragette City
    Blue Oyster Cult- Burnin’ For You, Then Came the Last Days of May, Stairway to the Stars, Astronomy, Walk on Stilts
    AC/DC- WHole Lotta Rosie, Rock N Roll Train, Money Talks, You shook me all night long
    Humble Pie- I don’t need no Doctor
    Free- All Right Now
    Judas Priest-Tyrant
    Eagle- Desperado, Take it Easy
    X- White Girl
    Ted Nugent- Stranglehold
    Bon Jovi- I’ll Sleep when I’m Dead
    The Cult- Sun King

    Barre Chord Mastery (the F chord):
    Bob Seger- Night Moves

    Open/Barre Chord Progressions Fun to record and loop to practice soloing over:
    Eagles- Hotel California, Bm-F#7-A-E-G-D-Em-F#7
    Jimi Hendrix- Little Wing- Em-G-Am-Em-Bm(Barre)-Bb-Am(Barre)-C-G-F-C-D

    Beginning Alternative Picking:
    Blue Oyster Cult- Don’t Fear the Reaper Main-Riff
    Beatles- Daytripper

    Beginning Fingerstyle:
    Fleetwood Mac- Landslide
    Kansas- Dust in the Wind
    Led Zeppelin- Stairway To Heaven

    Beginning Hybrid Picking:
    Rory Gallagher- Wayward Child, Secret Agent

    Beginning Solos with Bent Vibrato:
    Gary Moore- Parisienne Walkways
    AC/DC- You shook Me all night long

  • #9456

    Doug Marks
    Keymaster

    This topic is great. I’m going to include it in my notes for future reference.

    Metal Method Guitar Instructor

  • #9479

    Danimal
    Participant

    Any early Judas Priest is always simple stuff.  They really relied on very similar chord progressions over and over.

    If you’d like to learn a whole album you can’t go wrong with Doug’s Hawk lesson CDs.  They’re super easy to follow and you learn the entire song, all leads and fills, start to finish:

    http://metalmethod.com/hawk-song-lessons-by-doug-marks

    • #15332

      Igglepud
      Participant

      I didn’t know that existed. That’s on my to do list.

      MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

  • #10182

    ZUrlocker
    Participant

    I love some of these songs. Heck, I still play “Sweet Jane” with every band I play with. It’s cool, it’s easy, lots of people know it.

    The best thing is to pick a band that you like and then look for some of their easier songs. Even bands that have complex music usually have some songs that are pretty easy 3 chord rockers.  If it’s something you actually like, you will be way more motivated to learn it and practice.

     

  • #15329

    Anonymous

    One of my favorites that was fairly easy to learn and is tons of fun to play is Brand New Cadillac by the Clash. It’s a 50’s remake but every band I’ve been in loves to play it.

  • #15331

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    My new stage 1 pick, would be Creedance Bad Moon Risin, which can be played in an easy version with all open chords (strumming can take a little while to get right), and the lyrics are cool. It is also a good song to learn to sing because the words start on a strong beat (unlike songs from Danzig..). Verse chords D, A, G, D, D, repeat x 4. Chorus chords G, G, D, D, A, G, D, D.

    I’ll be honest, most of those songs on the list, I found really hard at stage 1 and stage 2 and didn’t get close to learning them. It took me quite a while (weeks) to learn The Beatles Come Together, maybe because I was going from tab, which is hard to fit the notes into what the chords are or see the song structure, and the various tab’s conflicted on how to play the song, some of them not even sounding close to the real thing. The first songs were really tough then it got a lot easier after about a dozen songs. Maybe part of the difficulty was the tab, especially free online tab. If learning using a chord method, for simple rhythm play-along, it is much easier. I would say, for the first songs: learn using one of the free chord sites (these often have lyrics written with the chords), not using the free tab sites, or alternatively using a chord book instead of tab book. After a handful of those songs are down, then maybe go for some rock, riff-heavy, tab songs.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #15333

    Igglepud
    Participant

    I don’t use a tab with less than 4 stars, and even then it needs to have a lot of reviews.

    Ultimate Guitar is awesome. I have it on my phone, my tablet, and my computer.

    Guitar Pro is even more awesome. You can pull songs that other people did the work on for you and play along. When things get tough, slow it down and play along that way. Just want to hear the solo? You can isolate as many or as few tracks as you want. It really is the best practice tool I have used.

    Eleanor Rigby. It’s basically two chords with a variation of Em.

    MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

  • #15493

    MichaelS
    Participant

    Awesome topic. Thanx!

  • #15537

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    Stage 1 – “Doesn’t Remind Me” by Audioslave – open chords E, A, D

    One of these weeks pretty soon I’m going to go thru my original collected list posted above and kill all the songs from the list that I personally think are too hard for stage 1 and stage 2 and maybe even stage 3. (Ha, I collected all the suggestions into the list, so I can do that! 😀 ) It is strange how some songs are suggested and basically there is.. just.. no way… to play these well at stage 1 and stage 2.. if practicing the suggested 1-2 hrs a day. These proposed guitar students must be alien beginners from Planet Shred or something if they can play some of those within a week, at the album track’s normal tempo. When just starting out? The stages are intended to be each one month long. Attempting some of those suggestions after only holding a guitar in the lap for 2 months are just not fair suggestions tho that’s just my opinion, it could also be that what I think “playing a song” means and what the suggestion might be saying for “playing a song” means are really very different.

    Stage 2 – Hit Me With Your Best Shot – Pat Benatar – barre chords

    This one I really did learn to play to tempo within 1 week of practice 30 mins a day.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #15539

    pipelineaudio
    Participant

    I’m always looking for lists like this for stuff our kids bands and summer rock camp kids can play, but surely, a lot of these suggestions must be a cut down or fake book version of the songs, right? Crazy Train? I must suck bad, because I still think that’s a hard song, after decades of playing it, I can’t imagine beginners doing it. I saw Master of Puppets on a list like this once. Maybe I need to learn how to simplify songs better or something

  • #15561

    Igglepud
    Participant

    I wouldn’t call Crazy Train easy, but it was the first song one of my new kids started working on. The F#F#C#F#DF#C#F# line IS easy, and the main riff isn’t super complex either. The solo…well, that’s a different story. The same goes for the first minute or so of Master of Puppets, it’s just really fast.

    MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

  • #15569

    safetyblitz
    Participant

    The F#F#C#F#DF#C#F# line IS easy, and the main riff isn’t super complex either.

    That F# pedal tone thing at the beginning can be deceptively hard to play smoothly at tempo, especially for a beginner, though if you drop a few of the notes (as even Zakk used to in some live versions I’ve heard) it’s a lot easier. That one fast bluesy fill in second position is wicked hard even for an intermediate player.

    • #15574

      Igglepud
      Participant

      I don’t hear a fill.

      MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

  • #15572

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    Based on Doug’s tip video which is at this link Tip 9 – How to Learn Complete Songs by Doug Marks http://guitarlessonforum.com/guitar-forums/topic/learning-beginner-songs

    I believe the guidelines for songs on a list like this one should be as described in Doug’s lesson above on learning songs (and also there are similar ideas in the new lessons). The intention is to learn a complete song from beginning to end and eventually play along with the album track. The song from beginning to end should be able to be learned within 4 hours in a single practice session and be able to be played mostly all the way through at least at a very slow speed that same day. Then after about one-two weeks of daily repetitive practice it should be playable at near full album speed, lets say, 80% which is pretty good and can keep improving to 100% speed.

    I’m always looking for lists like this for stuff our kids bands and summer rock camp kids can play, but surely, a lot of these suggestions must be a cut down or fake book version of the songs, right? Crazy Train? I must suck bad, because I still think that’s a hard song, after decades of playing it, I can’t imagine beginners doing it. I saw Master of Puppets on a list like this once. Maybe I need to learn how to simplify songs better or something

    I think the difference is that a lot of the songs, like Metallica’s songs on the list, were based on the idea of learning the main riffs only, not the complete song. Personally I am not into the stereotypical idea of “I learned Eruption and can play the whole solo! It took me 6 months!” .. that just was not my beginner’s thing, compared to being able to play a full song for friends which seems so much more fun. Or you know, serenade some cows 😀 Maybe for other beginners, or the previous generation of metalheads, that was their goal.

    I tried learning Paranoid when at Stage 3 as a first song. I spent much more than 4 hours on a few consecutive days and I didn’t get close to learning it all the way through at a slow speed. So I put it aside for later, I still haven’t learned it. I remember at Stage 3 it took around 25-30 hours for me to learn a Monster Power Chords exercise to just 70% speed as one of my first songs – but that’s not a full song either, it’s a 30 second exercise, kind of like a long verse. So simply to eliminate beginner frustration and get complete songs under the belt to be able to really rock out a song from beginning to end, as easily as possible on a learning curve, there should be some care in choosing actually easy songs for the list. And not having these be those ancient songs which many of us turned away from learning, like On Top Of Old Smokey 😀 or whatever.

    Two more suggestions which I think do fit the list – can be completely learned to be played thru slowly in a single day and up to very close to full speed within one-two weeks.

    Stage 1 – About A Girl – Nirvana – open chords Em, G, A, C. Verse Em, G. Chorus barre chords then E, A, C. Simple Solo.

    Stage 2 – Polly – Nirvana – open chords Em, G, D, C. Verse Em, G, D, C. Chorus barre chords. No Solo.

    I get really good audience feedback when playing these songs. Someone always says something cool or starts singing along. They’re the new classics.

    I think there should be some Beatles on this list and maybe also some Johnny Cash. So many metal gods were influenced by The Beatles and for obvious reasons. As for Johnny Cash I think (not sure) many of his songs are for serenading cows, and he is ‘the man in black’ (leather), not a whiny emo “wah, my baby left me” cowboy type, so his style is cool to me at least.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #15579

    safetyblitz
    Participant

    I don’t hear a fill.

    I’m talking about the one in the first chorus at about 1m24s:

  • #16694

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    Below is rock-beginner song list that a local instructor uses for a starter performance group tho I bet these have some modifications to simplify them. My hunch is that the instructors do not pick new songs because they dont know how to play new songs and their transcribing skills are not good at all, so, they recycle the same classics all the time. At least there are some more recent songs in this list. Obviously they are changing the songs to simplify because I know they don’t play The White Stripes with the guitar+bass on a single instrument, they split into separate guitar player(s) and separate bass player(s), this makes it much much simpler to play, likewise same for Black Keys.

    Paranoid – Black Sabbath

    T.N.T – AC/DC

    Come As You Are – Nirvana

    Beat On The Brat – The Ramones

    Your Really Got Me – The Kinks

    Smoke On The Water – Deep Purple

    Seven Nation Army – The White Stripes

    Kids – MGMT

    Blitzkrieg Bop – The Ramones

    Brain Stew – Green Day

    Howlin’ For You – The Black Keys

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #17350

    Guitarsmurf
    Participant

    Outside of Rock,Metal I usually suggest beginners learn some Christmas Carols, they are usually simply arranged, easy to play songs. Mostly I suggest this as a start playing a complete song, learn chord changes, and utilizing the those first chords you’ll learn and it’s kind of nice to be able to break out the acoustic and play a few carols for (or with) family and friends around the holidays. Added benefit is (for me it was anyway) it helps learning playing and singing ( I don’t sing very well though) at the same time, since most of us already know the lyrics. and of course the already mentioned Judas Priest, KISS, AC/DC.

  • #20681

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    This is the list of songs in Hal Leonard First 50 Rock Songs You Should Play On Electric Guitar
    Some of these surprised me.

    All Along The Watchtower
    All The Small Things
    Basket Case
    Beat It
    Boom Boom
    Born To Be Wild
    Breaking The Law
    Brown Eyed Girl
    Californication
    Cocaine
    Come As You Are
    Communication Breakdown
    Creep
    Day Tripper
    Detroit Rock City
    Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
    Everybody Hurts
    Hallelujah
    Here Without You
    Hey Joe
    Hide Away
    The House Of The Rising Sun
    (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction
    I Wanna Be Sedated
    Iron Man
    Island In The Sun
    Jailbreak
    Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door
    Mr. Jones
    My Hero
    No Rain
    Oh, Pretty Woman
    Otherside
    Peter Gunn
    Plush
    Pride And Joy
    Runnin’ Down A Dream
    Santeria
    Seven Nation Army
    Should I Stay Or Should I Go
    Simple Man
    Smells Like Teen Spirit
    Smoke On The Water
    Sunshine Of Your Love
    Ticket To Ride
    Tube Snake Boogie
    Walk Don’t Run
    When I Come Around
    Wild Thing
    You Really Got Me

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

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