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    • #14415
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      Same-old-song syndrome?
      Help is appreciated on forming a more “recent rock/metal hits” list of songs to learn and cover. A variety of “rock is dead” conversations here bring up the lack of play for newer great rock songs and lack of play of newer great rock bands. So now that this difficulty of finding newer songs is well defined then maybe by throwing collective metal fanbase at this obstacle, a current mix tape of new songs, to add to a personal setlist, can be made 😀

      The previous “List of Songs to Learn” threads are these:
      Stage 1 Finish – ‘Find a Song’ https://guitarlessonforum.com/guitar-forums/topic/stage-1-finish-find-a-song
      Song for Stage 1 https://guitarlessonforum.com/guitar-forums/topic/song-for-stage-1

      Another inspiration for this topic is Doug’s recent Tip video from the new complete basic course: “Learn new material!”


      Tip 8 to become an amazing guitarist is…

      New material for old rockers can mean fresh songs too.
      Ok so.
      Here’s the rules for this new Song List topic.

      Post a great rock or metal song, where:
      #1. The track was originally recorded/released on an album in 2006 or later.
      #2. They don’t have to be “Easy Songs” because that’s kind of subjective anyway. Just simply, newer than the classics we also enjoy. Hopefully intermediate level.
      #3. The song has to be charted or have a music video, so at least some other people, somewhere, will have also bought it or watched it and rocked out to it. (This does not mean it has to be a radio hit or on some ridiculous magazine’s list, having a music video is a good enough measure)

      Simply list the Year, the Artist, and the Song. Ok the year of the album is optional, just a good idea, given rule #2 above!

      The result could turn out to be a really good hard rocking set list for a modern home jam, or “friends of metal method” band to play?

      2006 was a good year right? Peak real estate bubble before the great world financial crash. Livin large! Still, that was 10 years ago now.

      I’ll go first! 😛 I’m just a hard rock & metal fan! You know hard rock when you hear it. Cause it ain’t soft rock! No whining, no emo! My choices are biased because they’re my choices such as I dont enjoy scream-o so I pick others instead.

      2014, Courtney Barnett, Pedestrian at Best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m_ZDBrn_kI
      2012, The Black Keys, Gold on the Ceiling
      2011, Megadeth, Never Dead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQo0lV6BStk
      2012, Halestorm “Love Bites (So Do I)” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmkHqUwa4zg “The band members have stated that it was influenced by their cover of Skid Row’s song Slave to the Grind and Lamb of God.”
      2014, Black Label Society, Crazy Horse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7DxaIgplMU
      2012, Nonpoint, Left For You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9MrVMYJ-es
      “Nonpoint has been around since the late 90’s, this incarnation of the band is relatively new. The only members of the band that remain are singer, Elias Soriano, and drummer, Robb Rivera.”
      2011, Evanescence, What You Want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVWazHTunSI
      Ehh yeah I know.. but at least it has guitars right, and it’s not scream-o.
      2013, Five Finger Death Punch, Lift Me Up (featuring Rob Halford of Judas Priest) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2yuGgp_U8
      2015, Armoured Saint, Win Hands Down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA-C8_zgLXo

      Ok I admit it’s a harder list to make. Thats why hopefully you guys have more thoughts on it. Modern hard rock to me often sounds like a song-sound formula (almost like faux Nickelback.. then again.. Poison had a formulaic feel in the 80s.. So who’s to talk).

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #14416
      rightonthemark
      Participant

      stand up by all that remains 2012
      hail to the king by avenged sevenfold 2013
      the vengeful one by disturbed 2011
      second chance by shinedown 2008
      battle born by five finger death punch 2013

      \m/ \m/

      rock and roll ain't pretty; that's why they picked us to play it.

    • #14417
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      I was going to mention Motor Sister but all their songs are actually written long ago and only recently ‘refreshed’. So I won’t list my song pick but just their name ;-D Their songs don’t qualify. (The songs all sound old school straight-ahead rock because they are old school hah)

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #14418
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      Nice picks ROTM!

      More..

      2007, Seether, Fake it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy8HPSIFXEM
      I literally thought this was Nickelback when I first heard it but then decided it sounded 10x better then Nickelback’s vocals even tho the musicianship sounds identical to me, so it had to be someone else. Anyway its from 2007, and it’s a popular rock hit and not emo, so it’s in the mix.

      2007, Audioslave, Revelations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m2q5Fw8gwI
      2007, Audioslave, Original Fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mexmK6bDY

      Ok Audioslave is a supergroup which isn’t really playing fair against the other bands, but their songs are all new originals so, that’s fair game 😀

      2009, ‘The New’ Alice In Chains, Check My Brain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBcADQziQWY

      2008, Rise Against, Savior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8X3ACToii0
      Ok they sound like a slightly harder and less clever version of Offspring, anyway, the picks could be worse, maybe not much cause it’s a cheezeball love song. Again at least it has guitars.

      2014, The Gitas, Mood For Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RxQMupHjA
      I mentioned these guys before I think they’re awesome. Different sound because band members are literally from around the world (east europe etc).

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #14419
      rorygfan
      Participant

      The Pretty Reckless- Wiki with Chart info  Take your pick, they have a modern sound and so many good songs, to me it’s unbelievable.  I actually ran an advertisement and could never find a local latina singer to produce who was interested in doing something in this genre but in spanish so gave up and went on vacation.  Here I am 6 month later still listening to all of this stuff over and over.

      Pretty Reckless- F’d up World

      Pretty Reckless- Going to Hell

      Pretty Reckless- Why’d you Bring a Shotgun to the Party

      Pretty Reckless- My Medicine

      Pretty Reckless- Hit me like Man

      Pretty Reckless- Sweet Things

      Pretty Reckless- Make Me wanna Die.

      Pretty Reckless- Follow Me Down

       

    • #14422
      rorygfan
      Participant
    • #14427
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      2014, Chevelle, Hunter Eats Hunter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwHZ6yVPRpU
      2011, Chevelle, Face To the Floor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfD6V8b1zco

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #14442
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      2008, Shinedown, Sound of Madness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGt-8adyabk

      yea, many of these I listed are radio friendly hard rock, that also means, commonly heard names. It would be awesome to list something from Maynard for example. I am guilty of not following his new stuff ;-( I’d have to dive into the tracks first. (And wow wouldn’t that be hard vocals to cover? Maybe?)

      New Black Sabbath. I hear kid bands cover Iron Man or War Pigs, they should cover the new album instead. The fault is their instructors who don’t teach the new songs, only the ‘same old, same old’.
      Singles:

      2013, Black Sabbath, God is Dead? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhhOU5FUPBE
      2013, Black Sabbath, End of the Beginning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0W91FrTlYk
      2013, Black Sabbath, Loner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqvThopYOLY

      Gone Is Gone … experienced musicians, yet a new group and new track https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gone_Is_Gone

      2016, Gone is Gone, Violescent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPvaFE7VOaM

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #15678
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      I see younger crowd liking these guys a lot, alt rock I suppose

      2011 Panic! At The Disco The Ballad Of Mona Lisa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgpdp3lP8M

      2009 My Chemical Romance Helena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCCyoocDxBA

      This entire thread is genuinely difficult. I was going thru Top Songs of 20xx lists and it is just wasteland for anything with heavy guitars.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #15689
      vinay
      Participant

      Could you clarify the rules a little? I could give a list of tunes but I’d hate to break rules. That would be too rock ‘n’ roll ;).

      Is there a difference between “rock and metal songs to learn” and “rock and metal songs” (full stop)? Any good metal or rock song could be worth studying, wouldn’t it? Or is it still to fall within a certain stage taught in the MM complete basic course?

      Rule 4, what does that mean exactly? If I’ve bought a certain cd then pretty surely someone else should have as well, right? Or is this simply to exclude (local) acts who don’t have a record (yet)?

    • #15690
      Igglepud
      Participant

      Avenged Sevenfold- Shepherd of Fire

      Rob Zombie- American Nightmare

      Rise Against- Hero of War

      Muse- Knights of Cydonia

      MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

    • #15692
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      Yea, rules, meh.

      Ok about the: “the song should have charted somewhere” idea. Metallica gained local following in 1981-1982 by covering brand-new-songs-not-written-by-them such as Am I Evil which was a very popular metal single just released a year before (1980). The intention is that if a cover song is played, then metalheads will recognize it. Covering a song by an underground band won’t get an audience going as much as playing something that is known (at least to metalheads). Or covering a song by a somewhat known metal band, but if it’s not “published as a single” (you know, one of the popular songs) then even metalheads won’t know it that well, you know, the not-even-B-side songs. I could post songs from some touring bands that I have really liked but because they are still unknown, not even the five rare metalheads in the audience will know those songs. If the song has an official music video (ie on youtube) then that is one sign that it has fans somewhere.

      And the: “songs to learn” aspect, yes I suppose the idea is that they should fit into “great song but not so advanced that most people couldn’t play it”. At least not be extreme metal that is for the advanced. Maybe like, Stage 4 territory? I don’t know that is a hard call perhaps. I guess most classic rock fits into a general zone of difficulty. Then the 80s came along and things started to get crazy and now some bands are like advanced-jazz-metal level.

      But anyway who cares about rules just post what you, personally, would like to hear a band play in a club somewhere. As long as it is newer than dirt.

      During a band rehearsal this past week, a newbie guest vocalist came to join, who had visited before, she’s just learning. This is the irony. Bandmates will be talking about songs and say “Yea wow, Deep Purple is so cool, we should do more of that.” Then two minutes later they will say, “Yea like, where’s the younger crowd haha, everyone here is like a grey hair, haha.” (Sound familiar?!) So I will again for the 10th time bring up the idea, “It would be great to cover newer songs because that would relate more to a younger energetic crowd and bring them in, or get those here, fired up and excited.” Everyone agrees, “Yea! We should play newer songs, definitely. So many bands play older stuff. It would be awesome to play newer stuff.” So yesterday the guest vocalist sends an email out to the group “What do you guys think about doing a Lynyrd Skynyrd song???” Someone replies “That’s a great idea! Which one?” -facepalm- x 1000. And someone happened to play a Steely Dan song on their phone the other nite and the guitarist exclaims “I love those guys, we should play that!” -facepalm- x 10,000.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #15695
      vinay
      Participant

      Ah, you mean the song actually has to be released as a single? I’d honestly never notice if they do. Does it count as a single if they release a music video on the internet? Maybe that is something to go by. Newer than Dirt, you mean AIC Dirt? That would give me another 15 years (before 2006) worth of music to dig from. Let me stick to newer than 2006 for now. (I thought I had some nice guitar stuff from Rise Against but it seems all three albums are from before 2006)

      Carcass – Unfit for Human Consumption (nice display of efficient fingering as well, if you’re working on your guitar technique)

      Mayan – War on Terror (they even have a “making of” video about the recording of the music video)

      Megadeth – Who’s Life (I had good fun practicing that one and I think it goes well with a crowd)

      Testament – Native Blood

      All of the tracks mentioned above require some additional rhythm practice beyond what’s taught in the complete basic course. But MM does offer some good rhythm courses that should do.

      There sure are more good songs from after 2006 but I’m just not that aware of what has been released as a single. I just buy the cd and pop it in the player. I rarely listen to a single track after all (usually the complete album, if not several subsequent albums after each other if I think they fit well) so buying a single doesn’t make sense.

      Does it matter much whether the audience knows a song or not? I think most of the times when I hear live music it is original or at least something most people don’t know but no one seems to mind. So they could just as well play unknown covers as long as it is good tune. Or is your experience very different over there? If so, how is a new band ever going to make it if the audience doesn’t want to hear something new?

       

      • #15697
        Igglepud
        Participant

        They don’t unless they put on a very entertaining show.

        MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

      • #15701
        vinay
        Participant

        You mean to say that if you play covers you can get away with a mediocre show whereas if you venture to do something original you’d better be very entertaining? My impression is that it is pretty much the other way around here. If you play a cover and especially if it is something people are already familiar with, you’d either be very good at it (so if you’re going to play RATM, better be very wild and be able to get the crowd along) or give it your own original twist (like a punk version of The Sound of Music like this local band always does alongside their original set). Me First and the Gimme Gimmies are all about this. Whereas when you play something people haven’t heard before (be it something original or just something people haven’t heard before) the crowd is not going to be that harsh on you. Depending on how much original material a new band has, they usually mix their own work with covers that either suit their style or they make it suit their style.

        I’m surprised to hear some people like it the other way around. Doesn’t make sense to me. I suppose if people visit a large festival like North Sea Jazz Festival or Lowlands over here, chances are slim they know even half of what they’re going to hear. And that’s just fine. It is a great way to discover new bands and even genres you weren’t familiar with.

      • #15708
        superblonde
        Keymaster

        It depends on the venue but in general yes especially for a typical bar band in a typical bar, they can be mediocre at playing 70s classic rock for example, and people will drink and dance and thus make the money for the dive bar/pub/restaurant-bar/small club. Even playing Mustang Sally for the millionth time. But if they play originals, people will not dance (because they dont know the song), they will not stick around to watch the ladies dance and drink more, and people will drift off. A few places which charge cover charge ($10 to $20) to enter especially more likely on certain nites, like a real promoted “show” with a flier-poster etc, those are different and are likely to be original bands all nite long. Another thing I have seen a lot recently even at the cover-charge-type-clubs, is “Band X vs. Band Y” nights, where really good cover bands play, for example, I have seen listings for “Beatles vs. Stones” show on a Fri nite, and a couple others like this, I dont know specifically but I guess there are a couple no-name cover bands (maybe like a supergroup of local players) specialized in those tunes. If there is a city-sponsored outdoor festival of some type then there may be small local original-only bands playing but even these shows typically have a cover band playing too (as opener or headliner if they are good). The weekly street ‘nite festival’ here put on by the city always has a local band on a tall built stage and it is always a cover band, and almost always 70s classic rock tunes. Metal as a whole maybe different, that’s less of a dance & drink type music nite, and there are very few places which host metal (probably because of low $$$ earned), but if they do, there’s gonna be a charge to get in the door.

        I can easily think of maybe 8 places I go around to locally and only 1 or 2 of them sometimes host original bands, otherwise, all are places where only cover bands play. Some of the cover bands are good, some are just okay. None of them are theme bands (no look-a-like costumes). Even if it is an original band, they are going to play some covers as part of their set. I am talking about pubs, restaurant-bars, local beer brewing houses. The cafe nearby me used to host 3 or 4 nites of music (recently stopped due to artist union fees) and those acoustic type bands (blues, folk, jazz, light rock, classical guitar) still played covers at least half of the songs.

        One exception to this is my jazz playing neighbor, who told me a long story about how his jazz band only plays his own originals (jazz rock progressions basically) and never covers, because he wants to play at locations which don’t pay $$$ to the artist unions (if you don’t pay then the venue can be fined/sued for failing to pay song royalties), and he does not want to be a member himself either and have to pay, something like that. He plays at business events and weddings and stuff I think.

        In general people say they like originals but when some band covers Freebird, those same people are the ones clapping the most. This is exactly proof – 2 weeks ago I went to a cafe open mic nite, walking by 2 guys who looked like musicians (turned out they were playing later), they were talking “Yea I typically only like originals. I dont like it so much when people cover songs at these open mics. I’d really like to hear originals only.” These same 2 guys were clapping and saying yea! and lip syncing when one girl played and sang Simple Man solo acoustic, and she did not get as high a level of response to her own songs. Same with the other artists who played originals vs covers. People will whip out phones to video someone playing a cover that is really a song they like. Not so, with originals. Another example. One time we played a bar during open mic nite. It was a bit of a quiet night but still maybe 30 people there. So quiet the drummer couldnt bring a full drum kit, instead just a snare on a stand. We are definitely not a good band- but people whipped out smartphones to video us because on a certain song I started a tradition of doing a certain stage antic, plus that song somehow is known to get ladies dancing and bopping around. We dont play originals yet (mostly because I have yet to complete one) but bands in the same class as us don’t get that response with their 1 or 2 original songs. So, I just look at what audiences really do.

        I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
        And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

      • #15720
        Igglepud
        Participant

        No, all I’m saying is that it is easier to find places to play if you do covers. Places will let you be mediocre on a repeated basis as long as you play the hits that keep people buying drinks.

        MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

    • #15699
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      Yea, it matters for a cover band 😀 .. Learning songs to play with others who also like those same bands, seems to be a typical good way to go.

      Any newer song that also has an “official video” on youtube probably fits the list.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

      • #15703
        vinay
        Participant

        I think all these four tunes mentioned have an official video available on their respective websites. Except for the Carcass tune as I’m not aware of a website they may have. But I have referred to that video elsewhere on this forum, should be searchable.

    • #15722
      PaulWolfe
      Participant

      How’s about some Steel Panther? Their “newer” but both old and young will move to the music.

    • #15762
      PaulWolfe
      Participant

      I took my own advice and learned Steel Panther’s Eyes of a Panther this evening on guitar AND bass… it’s been a while since I picked up a new song on guitar, it was fun.

      • #15769
        Igglepud
        Participant

        Shame on you!

        MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

    • #15763
      safetyblitz
      Participant

      But anyway who cares about rules just post what you, personally, would like to hear a band play in a club somewhere. As long as it is newer than dirt.

      “Take it off” by The Donnas

      “I Believe in a Thing Called Love” by The Darkness

    • #15764
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      hey! I was going to suggest that Donnas song. but it failed the 10 years test. actually both are over the limit. and this youtube comment on Thing Called Love beats anything I can say about the Darkness song- “i literally dance naked to this song most nights. let my hair down and helicopter my [censored].” HA!

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #15895
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      2014 RIVAL SONS – Open My Eyes [Official Video] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umrIUDOo-aM

      2011 Rival Sons – Pressure And Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MA0m1K2jW4

      2014 Jack White – Lazaretto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI-95cTMeLM

      2012 Jack White – Freedom At 21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s92smjLq_38

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #15909
      rorygfan
      Participant

      In general people say they like originals but when some band covers Freebird,

      You should play “Stairway to Freebird” like monte…

    • #15940
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      My tastes are mostly instrumental most of it is shred: Alejandro Silva, 80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uCLOTkf1FA
      Reb Beach playing the main (guitar screams intact) part from Black Magic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wc6Lt3T494
      Buckethead slicing his guitar on Jordan (studio): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcg9JybEp8&list=RDOTcg9JybEp8#t=12
      John Petrucci, Tunnel Vision (cover): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSY0ONExxaQ
      Troy Stetina, Flight of the Bumblebee (metallized): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZCDEQWQv7E
      Luis Moreno, 2000 and 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nss34yIcFE
      Bruce Bouillet, Scattergun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBN3do3phOA
      Zakk Wylde, Farm Fiddlin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fkkUOUONtw

    • #15969
      PaulWolfe
      Participant

      In general people say they like originals but when some band covers Freebird…

      Lynyrd Skynyrd’s first record featured Freebird, so even they felt the effect of this, superblonde. Consider the best original song you will ever write would be on your first record, how does that affect you as a musician? Led Zeppelin released a lot of records after recording Stairway to Heaven but never topped it.

      I’ve seen a LOT of unsigned bands and IF they have a great original, it gets noticed. The problem is that if you put most “original” music up against “the classics” and they simply aren’t that good. Van Halen had great originals on their first record and still relied on a Kinks cover to get attention.

      I’d say record your originals and post them here for peers you respect to comment on. ALL successful bands rely on covers in their early days to get an audience to follow them.

      Quiet Riot, in the Randy Rhoads days, chose to go the originals only route and couldn’t get a record contract to save their lives. Locals liked them, but their following evolved from backyard parties attended by friends. Eventually they got onto the club circuit because they could pack a house with friends from the party days… they also had Randy Rhoads, who could smoke EVERY guitar player in L.A. at the time… yet they still couldn’t get signed, because their originals simply couldn’t stack up with the classics.

      Van Halen had a habit of segueing from a popular radio hit into an original so that the crowd didn’t realize that the song had changed and danced right through both songs… it’s a cheap trick, but it works.

    • #15979
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      Rory and Paul I think you’re reading each others minds 😀 medley’s are cool. Medley’ing into an original song is a cool idea too. Mixing things up can really make songs sound new again. It would be great to take songs from this “new songs” list and mash them with old classics and vice versa. I think there are few rock performers who do medleys, I guess Jack White has this style live, though his music suits that habit too. Of the pro artists I’ve seen live, (except for blues guys), all dont seem to have a habit of doing medleys, they just do entire songs.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #16043
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      2014 Wolf Alice – Moaning Lisa Smile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z71df68qLp0

      No one mentioned Royal Blood yet. It is not fair to mention them because they sound so amazing yet that sound comes from a bassist not from a guitarist. :-/

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #16518
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      this band was popular on rock radio apparently, and also with teens (I dunno I must have missed it, maybe i’d call it, the post-nickelback era band sound) Original frontman left in 2013.

      these are all vevo videos

      2007 Hinder Hinder – Get Stoned (Uncensored) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYIxUM-CnSw
      2007 Hinder – Born To Be Wild https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqgM240GoU4
      2008 Hinder – Use Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6h7WuXYIM
      2009 Hinder – Without You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNg4r4qYPw
      2009 Hinder – Lips Of An Angel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiSfTyrvJlg
      2009 Hinder – Up All Night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L33_XmAZ-M
      2009 Hinder – Better Than Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEXBmw2jBcA
      2010 Hinder – All American Nightmare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx5PcB1t-s8
      2011 Hinder – What Ya Gonna Do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2zEG9owql0
      2013 Hinder – Should Have Known Better (Lyric) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B5OvEMRwkM

      Hinder is an American rock band from Oklahoma that was formed in 2001 by drummer Cody Hanson, lead singer Austin Winkler and guitarist Joe “Blower” Garvey. The band released four studio albums with Winkler; Extreme Behavior (2005), Take It to the Limit (2008), All American Nightmare (2010) and Welcome to the Freakshow (2012). Winkler left the band in 2013, and When The Smoke Clears (2015) was Hinder’s first album featuring new lead vocalist Marshal Dutton.[1]

      The band was inducted into the Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame in 2007. The band is best known for their early hits “Get Stoned,” “Lips of an Angel,” “Better than Me,” How Long, “Use Me” and “Without You.”

      The band’s latest release, a six-song acoustic EP titled “Stripped” was released May 13, 2016.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinder

      Note Motley Crue influence

      Take It to the Limit: 2008–2009

      The first single from the band’s second album, “Use Me”, was released on July 15, 2008 and peaked at No. 3 on the US Mainstream Rock Tracks chart. The second album, Take It to the Limit, was released on November 4, 2008; the album marked a change in style in Hinder’s music in that it moved the band in a slightly more glam metal-influenced direction. The title track features Mötley Crüe’s Mick Mars on guitar. They announced the release of the album’s second single, “Without You,” through their official MySpace page on September 13, 2008. Take It To the Limit debuted at number four on the Billboard 200 with 81,000 sales its first week and ended up going Gold in the US

      Through late 2008, Hinder headlined the Jägermeister Music Tour with Trapt and Rev Theory also on the bill.

      In early 2009, Hinder embarked on Mötley Crüe’s Saints Of Los Angeles Tour, which also included Theory of a Deadman and The Last Vegas.

      In July, Hinder embarked on Nickelback’s Dark Horse Tour, which ran through Live Nation outdoor amphitheaters; other bands involved on the tour were Papa Roach and Saving Abel.

      On March 27, 2013 Take It To The Limit was certified gold in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinder

      Ok slight tangent. Seems cliche yet the story about the original frontman’s addiction to pills. (If they toured with Motley you’d think Nikki Sixx would have some advice for him or something during the early days?)

      https://www.examiner.com/article/hinder-frontman-austin-winkler-on-overcoming-addiction-and-finding-clarity

      Through all of the tours, accolades and life-changing experiences, Austin Winkler — always smiling, always charismatic, and always delivering the best possible performances — was numbing himself with Vicodin. Introduced to the drug as a teenager, he became addicted to the feeling of feeling nothing at all, and his dependency grew in tandem with his band’s success.

      Last year, Winkler came to terms with his downward spiral. Cognizant that the situation was beyond his control, he spent a month in rehab and came out with both clarity and challenges, as he discusses in this interview.

      Billboard magazine wrote, “Hinder’s New Album Inspired By Singer’s ‘Really Dark Drug Binge.’” It must have felt good to see that headline …

      Well, you know, I slipped into something completely not OK, and the record is a result of it in some ways. I’m not regretting any of it. It’s just something I have to keep in mind and keep overcoming. I’m a raging addict, and this is all stuff that I just realized, and stopped and smelled the roses, and I’m sitting here with this huge addiction.

      Is this your first sober tour?

      Yes and no. This is the first tour I’ve done in a long time without the pills that I loved to take. I went to rehab — twice, actually — and I erased all my numbers that allowed me to have access to those drugs. I’m out here having a blast.

      It was just pills?

      Yeah, big time.

      Were you using on the road and at home?

      Yeah, absolutely. It was twenty-four hours a day. It didn’t get twenty-four hours a day until last year; it was just full blown. It was the first thing I thought about when I woke up. There was easy access, and I had it when I woke up every day and when I went to sleep every night.

      Usually, with musicians, we think alcohol or blow or shooting up. Pills? What happened?

      It wasn’t any specific thing. I was introduced to the drug when I was 16, and for me, it was literally a way of life for eleven or twelve years.

      Did you suffer any damage from ingesting so many drugs for such a long period of time?

      No, no. I’ve luckily dodged all that stuff. I thank the good lord every day for that. If you look at the first record, I thank Mr. Watson 540 on Extreme Behavior [2005]. That’s a very strong Vicodin, and people would go through the lines and hand that s–t straight to me. They noticed it and they brought them to me at every show.

      You were taking drugs from strangers?

      Oh, absolutely. Back in the day, they were handing me drugs that I’d been used to taking. They’re Watson 540’s, they’re blue, I know what they look like. They weren’t handing me anything I hadn’t taken before. I had such a relationship with these pills that I definitely knew what I was taking.

      When did you realize that it was a problem? Your bandmates knew. Your wife knew. Did anyone intervene? You’re an adult. Did they leave it to you to figure it out for yourself?

      With everybody, it was kind of tough love, and I think definitely the boys let me know how they felt. Not super direct, but in some ways that I definitely … obviously, I knew that I had the issue, but it was something that I had to wrestle with myself. Like you said, I’m a big boy, I’m a man, I needed to own up to it. The only way I could separate myself from all of that was going to rehab, and I ended up in there twice.

      How much were you taking per day?

      It depended on what I had. For about three months I was addicted to Oxycontin and Dilaudid, and I’d take ten or so of those a day. I would get my prescription filled and take fifteen or twenty a day. It was out of control. It was ridiculous.

      (Then he goes on to say he only drinks now so I think he is still missing the point there but whatever)

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #16774
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      Where’d everybody go- you’re only as old as the music ya listen to, you know 😀 It is out there somewhere… ready to find it and buy it..

      This is a new band I am betting rory will enjoy for reasons which may be immediately obvious 😮

      2014 Electric Citizen – Light Years Beyond (Official Music Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omGon5N233A

      live show ELECTRIC CITIZEN Santa Ana, CA. 5-16-2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Paiu9x2Aw

      This next one is also a new band from LA. I dont know how to say their name.. very tasty rock, and cool theme videos. The first video reminds me of Blind Melon No Rain with the cute awkward-outcast dancing girl from the classic mtv days.

      2015 ZÄDO Friends’ Ship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbDsxJXq87s
      2015 ZÄDO YOU BELONG TO ME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwYPBcrGOkA

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #26278
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      This thread has helped me to clarify the songs I want to learn & cover. So here’s more on this topic.

      I completely skipped Volbeat in my lists, they could be added here too (see below list).

      So here’s a wikipedia’s list of 2010’s Billboard Rock #1’s. the formatting of the message will be messed up from cut & paste but whatever, the song titles are there.

      Lots of Foo, Green Day, A7X, 5FDP, Royal Blood too. The Black Keys would also be all over this list but they are classified as Alt Rock. Greta is also mentioned here too.

      The Billboard Mainstream Rock chart is compiled from the amount of airplay songs receive from active rock and heritage rock radio stations in the United States.[1] Below are the songs that have reached number one on the chart during the 2010s, listed in chronological order.

      Issue date Song Artist(s) Weeks at
      number one
      2010[2]
      February 27 “Your Decision” Alice in Chains 8
      April 24 “Cryin’ Like a Bitch” Godsmack 5
      May 29 “The Good Life” Three Days Grace 5
      July 3 “Let Me Hear You Scream” Ozzy Osbourne 4
      July 31 “The Crow & the Butterfly” Shinedown 1
      August 7 “Another Way to Die” Disturbed 8
      October 2 “Say You’ll Haunt Me” Stone Sour 8
      November 27 “Porn Star Dancing” My Darkest Days featuring Zakk Wylde 2
      December 11 “World So Cold” Three Days Grace 5
      2011[3]
      January 15 “The Sex Is Good” Saving Abel 1
      January 22 “Isolation” Alter Bridge 7
      March 12 “Diamond Eyes (Boom-Lay Boom-Lay Boom)” Shinedown 3
      April 2 “Rope” Foo Fighters 5
      May 7 “Country Song”dagger[4] Seether 10
      July 16 “Lies of the Beautiful People” Sixx:A.M. 2
      July 30 “So Far Away” Avenged Sevenfold 3
      August 20 “Lowlife” Theory of a Deadman 3
      September 10 “Walk” Foo Fighters 4
      October 8 “Not Again” Staind 4
      November 5 “Tonight” Seether 1
      November 12 “Not Again” Staind 3
      December 3 “Face to the Floor” Chevelle 12
      2012[5]
      February 25 “Bully”dagger[6] Shinedown 12
      May 19 “Live to Rise” Soundgarden 6
      June 30 “Burn It Down” Linkin Park 1
      July 7 “You’re a Lie” Slash featuring Myles Kennedy & The Conspirators 2
      July 21 “Still Counting” Volbeat 2
      August 4 “Unity” Shinedown 4
      September 1 “Coming Down” Five Finger Death Punch 1
      September 8 “Criticize” Adelitas Way 1
      September 15 “Coming Down” Five Finger Death Punch 1
      September 22 “Chalk Outline” Three Days Grace 13
      December 22 “Been Away Too Long” Soundgarden 7
      2013[7]
      February 9 “Heaven nor Hell” Volbeat 1
      February 16 “Stand Up” All That Remains 2
      March 2 “Hollow” Alice in Chains 3
      March 23 “Bones” Young Guns 1
      March 30 “Hollow” Alice in Chains 2
      April 13 “Freak Like Me” Halestorm 2
      April 27 “The High Road” Three Days Grace 1
      May 4 “By Crooked Steps” Soundgarden 2
      May 18 “Vilify” Device 2
      June 1 “The Hangman’s Body Count” Volbeat 3
      June 22 “Stone” Alice in Chains 3
      July 13 Trenches”dagger[8] Pop Evil 4
      August 10 “Lift Me Up” Five Finger Death Punch 1
      August 17 “Out of Time” Stone Temple Pilots 1
      August 24 “Hail to the King” Avenged Sevenfold 10
      November 2 “Misery Loves My Company” Three Days Grace 1
      November 9 “Hail to the King” Avenged Sevenfold 1
      November 16 “Never Never” Korn 3
      December 7 “Lola Montez” Volbeat 1
      December 14 “Battle Born” Five Finger Death Punch 2
      December 28 “Deal with the Devil” Pop Evil 1
      2014[9]
      January 4 “Battle Born” Five Finger Death Punch 3
      January 25 “Tired” Stone Sour 1
      February 1 “Shepherd of Fire” Avenged Sevenfold 7
      March 22 “Heaven Knows”dagger[10] The Pretty Reckless 5
      April 26 “Take Out the Gunman” Chevelle 3
      May 17 “Guilty All the Same” Linkin Park featuring Rakim 3
      June 7 “Torn to Pieces” Pop Evil 2
      June 21 “Painkiller” Three Days Grace 4
      July 19 “Words as Weapons” Seether 5
      August 23 “1000hp” Godsmack 3
      September 13 “Messed Up World (F’d Up World)” The Pretty Reckless 1
      September 20 “Until It’s Gone” Linkin Park 1
      September 27 “Messed Up World (F’d Up World)” The Pretty Reckless 3
      October 18 “World on Fire” Slash featuring Myles Kennedy & The Conspirators 1
      October 25 “Edge of a Revolution” Nickelback 2
      November 8 “Something from Nothing” Foo Fighters 13
      2015[11]
      February 7 “I Am Machine” Three Days Grace 6
      March 21 “Face Everything and Rise” Papa Roach 1
      March 28 “Apocalyptic” Halestorm 1
      April 4 “Congregation” Foo Fighters 3
      April 25 “Coming for You” The Offspring 1
      May 2 “Follow Me Down” The Pretty Reckless 1
      May 9 “Heavy Is the Head” Zac Brown Band featuring Chris Cornell 2
      May 23 “Failure”dagger[12] Breaking Benjamin 9
      July 25 “Little Monster” Royal Blood 1
      August 1 “Amen” Halestorm 1
      August 8 “Cut the Cord” Shinedown 3
      August 29 “The Vengeful One” Disturbed 1
      September 5 “Cut the Cord” Shinedown 4
      October 3 “Footsteps” Pop Evil 4
      October 31 “The Otherside” Red Sun Rising 1
      November 7 “Angels Fall” Breaking Benjamin 4
      December 5 “Throne” Bring Me the Horizon 2
      December 19 “The Light” Disturbed 5
      2016[13]
      January 23 “Wash It All Away” Five Finger Death Punch 2
      February 6 “State of My Head” Shinedown 6
      March 19 “The Sound of Silence” Disturbed 7
      May 7 “Emotionless” Red Sun Rising 2
      May 21 “The Devil’s Bleeding Crown”dagger[14] Volbeat 9
      July 23 “Dark Necessities” Red Hot Chili Peppers 3
      August 13 “Joyride (Omen)” Chevelle 4
      September 10 “Bang Bang” Green Day 4
      October 8 “Hardwired” Metallica 1
      October 15 “Bang Bang” Green Day 3
      November 5 “Take Me Down” The Pretty Reckless 2
      November 19 “Feel Invincible” Skillet 1
      November 26 “Open Your Eyes” Disturbed 1
      December 3 “My Name Is Human”[15] Highly Suspect 8
      2017
      January 28 “Square Hammer”[16] Ghost 2
      February 11 “Still Breathing”[17] Green Day 1
      February 18 “Atlas, Rise!”[18] Metallica 2
      March 4 “How Did You Love”[19] Shinedown 4
      April 1 “Never Again”[20] Breaking Benjamin 2
      April 15 “Help”[21] Papa Roach 6
      May 27 “Let You Down”[22] Seether 4
      June 24 “Black Rose”[23] Volbeat featuring Danko Jones 1
      July 1 “Song #3″dagger[24][25] Stone Sour 4
      July 29 “Run”[26] Foo Fighters 4
      August 26 “Lights Out”[27] Royal Blood 3
      September 16 “Highway Tune”[28] Greta Van Fleet 5
      October 21 “Rx (Medicate)”[29] Theory of a Deadman 6
      December 2 “Go to War”[30] Nothing More 1
      December 9 “The Sky Is a Neighborhood”[31] Foo Fighters 4
      2018
      January 3 “I Only Lie When I Love You”[32] Royal Blood 6
      February 10 “Born for Greatness”[33] Papa Roach 2
      February 24 “Safari Song”[34] Greta Van Fleet 1
      March 3 “Born for Greatness”[35] Papa Roach 1

      Now here is the other neat list. Again with messed up formatting from cut & paste but again the song titles and band names are there.


      Hot Rock Songs is a record chart published by Billboard magazine. From its debut on June 20, 2009, through October 13, 2012, the chart ranked the airplay of songs across alternative, mainstream rock, and triple A radio stations in the United States.

      Number-one singles with artist, date, time spent, and references
      No. Artist Title Reached number one Weeks at
      number one Ref.
      1 Green Day “Know Your Enemy” June 20, 2009 1 [6]
      2 Linkin Park “New Divide” June 27, 2009 12 [7]
      3 Alice in Chains “Check My Brain” September 19, 2009 8 [8]
      4 Foo Fighters “Wheels” November 14, 2009 2 [9]
      5 Breaking Benjamin “I Will Not Bow” November 28, 2009 2 [10]
      6 Three Days Grace “Break” December 12, 2009 12 [11]
      7 Alice in Chains “Your Decision” March 6, 2010 6 [12]
      8 Stone Temple Pilots “Between the Lines” April 17, 2010 7 [13]
      9 Three Days Grace “The Good Life” June 5, 2010 6 [14]
      10 Shinedown “The Crow & the Butterfly” July 17, 2010 1 [15]
      11 The Dirty Heads featuring Rome Ramirez “Lay Me Down” July 24, 2010 1 [16]
      re Shinedown “The Crow & the Butterfly” July 31, 2010 3 [15]
      12 Linkin Park “The Catalyst” August 21, 2010 5 [17]
      13 Disturbed “Another Way to Die” September 25, 2010 1 [18]
      14 Stone Sour “Say You’ll Haunt Me” October 2, 2010 8 [19]
      15 The Black Keys “Tighten Up” November 27, 2010 2 [20]
      re Stone Sour “Say You’ll Haunt Me” December 11, 2010 1 [19]
      re The Black Keys “Tighten Up” December 18, 2010 10 [20]
      16 Cage the Elephant “Shake Me Down” February 26, 2011 2 [21]
      17 Foo Fighters “Rope”dagger[22] March 12, 2011 20 [23]
      18 “Walk” July 30, 2011 1 [24]
      19 Red Hot Chili Peppers “The Adventures of Rain Dance Maggie” August 6, 2011 8 [25]
      re Foo Fighters “Walk” October 1, 2011 7 [24]
      20 Bush “The Sound of Winter” November 19, 2011 5 [26]
      21 The Black Keys “Lonely Boy”dagger[27] December 24, 2011 14 [28]
      22 Gotye featuring Kimbra “Somebody That I Used to Know” March 31, 2012 4 [29]
      23 Fun featuring Janelle Monáe “We Are Young” April 28, 2012 1 [30]
      re Gotye featuring Kimbra “Somebody That I Used to Know” May 5, 2012 3 [29]
      24 Linkin Park “Burn It Down” May 26, 2012 10 [31]
      25 Green Day “Oh Love” August 4, 2012 1 [32]
      re Linkin Park “Burn It Down” August 11, 2012 1 [31]
      re Green Day “Oh Love” August 18, 2012 6 [32]
      26 The Lumineers “Ho Hey” September 29, 2012 2 [33]
      27 Mumford and Sons “I Will Wait” October 13, 2012 1 [34]
      28 Fun “Some Nights” October 20, 2012 8 [35]
      re The Lumineers “Ho Hey” December 15, 2012 16 [33]
      29 Imagine Dragons “Radioactive”dagger[36] April 6, 2013 23 [37]
      30 Lorde “Royals” September 14, 2013 19 [38]
      31 Passenger “Let Her Go” January 25, 2014 5 [39]
      32 Bastille “Pompeii”dagger[40] March 1, 2014 12 [41]
      33 Paramore “Ain’t It Fun” May 24, 2014 1 [42]
      34 Coldplay “A Sky Full of Stars” May 31, 2014 1 [43]
      re Paramore “Ain’t It Fun” June 7, 2014 10 [42]
      re Coldplay “A Sky Full of Stars” August 16, 2014 2 [43]
      35 Tove Lo “Habits” August 30, 2014 6 [44]
      re Coldplay “A Sky Full of Stars” October 11, 2014 3 [43]
      36 Hozier “Take Me to Church” November 1, 2014 23 [45]
      37 Walk the Moon “Shut Up and Dance”dagger[46] April 11, 2015 27 [47]
      38 X Ambassadors “Renegades” October 17, 2015 2 [48]
      39 Elle King “Ex’s & Oh’s” October 31, 2015 10 [49]
      40 Twenty One Pilots “Stressed Out”dagger[50] January 9, 2016 18 [51]
      41 Prince “Purple Rain” May 14, 2016 1 [52]
      re Twenty One Pilots “Stressed Out”dagger May 21, 2016 5 [51]
      42 “Ride” June 25, 2016 9 [53]
      43 “Heathens” August 27, 2016 30 [54]
      44 Imagine Dragons “Believer”dagger March 25, 2017 29 [55]
      45 Portugal. The Man “Feel It Still” October 14, 2017 5 [56]
      46 Imagine Dragons “Thunder” November 18, 2017 17 [57]
      Statistics[edit]
      By artist[edit]
      Artists by most number-one singles
      Artist Number-one singles Ref.
      Twenty One Pilots 3 [58]
      Foo Fighters 3 [59]
      Imagine Dragons 3 [60]
      Linkin Park 3 [61]
      Alice in Chains 2 [62]
      The Black Keys 2 [63]
      Fun 2 [30][64]
      Green Day 2 [65]
      Three Days Grace 2 [66]
      Artists by most weeks at number-one
      Artist Weeks at number-one Ref.
      Imagine Dragons 70 [37][55][57]
      Twenty One Pilots 62 [51][53][54]
      Foo Fighters 30 [9][23][24]
      Linkin Park 28 [7][17][31]
      Walk the Moon 27 [47]
      The Black Keys 26 [20][28]
      Songs by total number of weeks at number one[edit]
      Number-one singles by amount of time spent at number-one
      Song Weeks at number-one Ref.
      “Heathens” 30 [54]
      “Believer” 29 [55]
      “Shut Up and Dance” 27 [47]
      “Radioactive” 23 [37]
      “Take Me to Church” 23 [45]
      “Stressed Out” 23 [51]
      “Rope” 20 [23]

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

    • #26283
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      To answer a question that has been asked repeatedly in this thread (source: I used to play in cover bands for a living):

      Yes, it matters if the audience knows the songs. Bar patrons indubitably, unquestionably want to dance to familiar music.. I am not targeting Johnny The Cool Rocker. I am targeting Debbie who was head of the cheerleading squad and has never actually purchased an album in her life. If you’re in a club that pays enough to be worth crossing your street for, THAT is your target audience.

      That said, I’ll drop a list in awhile.

    • #26368
      superblonde
      Keymaster

      silversun pickups should also be in this list somewhere too.

      2009 “Panic Switch” silversun pickups is the song that was on the charts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG8fugqFn9Q
      2009 “Substitution” was also popular https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcwX2TnsTPE

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! ♯ ♮ ♭ ø ° Δ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

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