HomeForumsGuitar Instructorsis it necessary to down pick all of metallicas songs or can you alternate pick

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  • #20711

    steph1690
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    the reason im asking is because i see people bashing others that metallica songs

    should be down picked only. do you need to learn both down picking and alternate picking?

  • #20723

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    You can do anything you want cuz this is rock n’ roll! And haters can prove themselves in the pit otherwise stop talkin’ smack! 😛
    But, downpicking sounds more crunchy and aggressive. There’s more pick attack on the strings.
    So, I think downpicking is best. How’s it sound when you compare the two methods?
    Check out Dee J’s Monster Power Chords, he goes a lot into this.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #20726

    Igglepud
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    For those chunky rhythm parts, yes, down pick them.

    Want to play a solo with all down strokes? Good luck!

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  • #20746

    MotleyCrue81
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    People just say that cause Metallica does a lot of chugging. Fast parts they doe alternate just like everyone else. Just know that a heavy chugg normally means palm muting the power chords and firm downpicking.

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  • #20747

    j dogg39
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    I feel that downpicking enables one to accent easier. Try to play the Creeping Death riff first with alternate picking, then with all downstrokes. Just my two cents………

  • #21077

    steph1690
    Participant

    thank you guys so much for your responses
    im super late in responding back been so busy
    but thanks so much everyone

  • #21078

    steph1690
    Participant

    does michael angelo batio downpick i dont think ive seen him do it i saw him live very recently and he played metallicas songs and saw him alternate pick those
    just curious to know thats all

  • #21094

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    Look at it this way. How fast is your current max for downpick only and no mess ups? Then, work on increasing that speed. So kind of regardless of how other people are playing whatever they play you always want to be faster. MAB seems to be very strict about alternate picking in general but I’m not sure about crunchy rhythm parts. However his alternate picking technique might be better than many players best downpicking so maybe that’s not a great comparison.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #22292

    Curt Kingston
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    You don’t have to down pick every Metallica riff but there are some that require it. For example, the iconic riffs in Puppets, Creeping, Blackened, just to name a few, must be down picked for two reasons:

    1. the notes on the A string are accented and the down pick makes it pop

    2. the odd meter counts–Your pick needs to be ready to slam downward when the riff turns around

    Just listen to the riffs. Listen for the accents. Try down picks and alt picks. Play them very slowly and pay attention to your picking. If it sounds muddy or the accents are weak then it needs to be down picked.

    Try alt picking the opening riff of Disposable Heroes. It can be done but it will be muddy and you’ll find yourself behind AND ahead of the beat. Again the odd meter and the accents need the down pick.

    Listen to Anthrax as well. Madhouse is a perfect example of down picking. The opening riff gets muddy if you alt pick it. It must be down picked.

    Just start slow. Use a metronome. And slowly build up your down picking stamina. Don’t tense up your picking hand or picking arm. Just stay relaxed and it will come in time.

    PS. You can cheat a bit when you are playing live. Even Het will alt pick here and there. It’s not rocket science. It’s rock n roll, it’s supposed to be fun.

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