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  • #21138

    j dogg39
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    When I was going through DJ’s LGDNA program, he stressed the importance of learning to bend to correct pitch. He also stated how out of tune bends can make you sound REALLY bad REALLY fast. I have been practing whole and half step bends for months now. I have developed a pretty decent ear for making sure it sounds in tune. I cook at a youth correctional facility and also teach basic guitar there. The youth enjoy my guitar lessons because I am the “rock n roll” guy at the facility. Even the youth that have learned to play quite well are HORRIBLE when it comes to bending notes. I feel the bad note all the way up my spine, lol. I try to get them to do bending drills but they never do. DJ was right, not being able to bend to pitch makes you sound bad fast!

  • #21139

    Will Flaherty
    Moderator

    Bending to pitch and good vibrato are what separates an amateur from a pro. I stress this with all my students.

    I see the same thing all over YouTube and in clubs. Guitar players that can play decently fast, but have horrible bending and vibrato. It makes for a horrible sounding lead.

  • #21144

    Sonic
    Participant

    Any recommendations on when to start practicing bends and vibrato and how to do it?

    I recall specific instruction on practicing bends in week 11 of the complete course. In one of the following weeks the pivot mechanism is explained with respect to vibrato. But I don’t recall specific exercises. Or would you recommend to postpone this to the intermediate section?

    I am roughly at weeks 14 to 16. I haven’t done any practice on vibrato so far. I feels very difficult, which is probably because it involves different muscles and a different kind of coordination than anything else done so far.

    • #21155

      superblonde
      Keymaster

      At a minimum, when you get to the Licks lesson week, there are so many licks that require bends, it’s crazy to play them at not spend tons of time getting the right sound. Altho there are 25 licks I spent tons of time just on the first 8 of them because of the bends. I had to finally work on getting the right hand position and the speed of switching from one thumb position to another, fast enough for the licks and bends. Still working on it, but for sure, those licks enforce good bending or the lesson simply cant be completed.

      I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
      And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #21153

    PaulWolfe
    Participant

    Bending to pitch and good vibrato are what separates an amateur from a pro.  

    I couldn’t agree more! I’ve been playing since 1980 and remember the early days when bending seemed so difficult. I don’t remember specifically practicing bends, but I must have because I can do them fine now… I remember learning the solo to Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2) – my favorite solo of all time – and thinking, “I’ll probably sound horrible on the bends.” But, actually, I did quite well with them… surprised myself, actually. Bends are the key to that solo.

    • #21156

      Igglepud
      Participant

      I’m working on that solo myself, and you are absolutely correct. Bends, bends, bends.

      MY ROCK IS FIERCE!!!

  • #21172

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    New LA band, lead guitarist shows how not to bend:


    Bleached — “Sleepwalking” (Live at SPIN at Stubb’s, SXSW 2016)

    Not trying to diss this band but the lead guitarist.. wow sounds horrible or is just me (in their other videos too). Especially solo at 3:40.

    (I ran across an article comparing the band to L7.. uhh sorry these guys are /no way/ as good as L7!)

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #21173

    Guitarsmurf
    Participant

    I used to practice bending  to pitch with a tuner

  • #21769

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    About bending to correct pitch, sometimes I wonder when improvising, how much to bend. 3 choices: 1/2 step, or full step, or 1.5 step. Sometimes in licks the bends seem like they are to the next note in the scale, but sometimes they aren’t. I’m sure there’s some genre guidelines, like using the blue note for blues soloing then bending to the scale note or vice versa..(?) Either way the pitch has to be correct but still there is a choice of what the target note is. I ran across a Guitar World video by Keith Wyatt (blues obviously, called Keith Wyatt: Talkin’ Blues #1 (String Bending)) and he said, T. Bone Walker and those guys, only did half-step bends (“nudge the string”), and BB King and his peers (Wyatt calls this, “take it into the modern blues realm”, “around the 1950s”) started bending full step or more because they had lighter strings so they could actually do it, and then Albert King who bends two whole steps (“in the 60s..” “big fat wide bends like the Albert King sound”). Interesting contrast of bend styles..

    The same video also has some very interesting exercises for bends that I havent seen before. He recommends practicing bends along a single string, playing all the notes of the A Dorian scale, by: 1. go up the neck playing a note then bending to next one in the scale then changing position and repeat; 2. down the neck by pre-bending to the next note (!!) then playing the note then changing position and repeat; 3. go up the neck again, pre-bend to 1.5 step up and play the note, slack the bend to full step and play the note, slack the bend to half step up and play the note, then play the note itself and then change position and repeat. What a monster exercise.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #21772

    safetyblitz
    Participant

    I ran across a Guitar World video by Keith Wyatt (blues obviously, called Keith Wyatt: Talkin’ Blues #1 (String Bending)) and he said

    Keith Wyatt is a badass. Thanks for posting this. I first learned how cool he is from a free streaming thing he and Paul Gilbert did for Artistworks.

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