HomeForumsProgress Review[Beginner Final] AC/DC Highway to Hell +Long ver solo

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  • #22193

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

    Hey guys, i finished the beginner section of the program! That is 17 weeks of lessons.  So here’s my “Final” for this section.I used the Am pentatonic scale that was taught to help my finger coordination in this song. Some members were saying that the songs don’t include the solos, but why not ? I did the long version of the solo here!

    MY guitar panned left, song panned right

    Now off to Intermediate land!

  • #22200

    MotleyCrue81
    Participant

    Keep rockin, the intermediate stuff will have a lot more lead type stuff.  🙂

    Bring hair metal back!

  • #22203

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    Sounds good two thumbs up for where you’re at. Did that panning work? I hear the song in both channels.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #22204

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

    ^ It’s 80% panned left and the song is 80% panned right.
    My other friend didn’t like the hard pan, so I kept a compromise.

    Actually most youtubers i’ve seen don’t even pan

    Thanks all for stopping by and commenting!

  • #22205

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    In that case consider posting 2 versions, if you want. Personally I find it quite hard to critique fine details without completely separating the channels. The benefits of digital production.. as many versions as you want.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #22206

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

    ^ MY POST IS BLOCKED AGAIN

  • #22207

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

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    PASS
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  • #22208

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

    ^ Rmove the parts after up to 13px;> the exclaimation point is the password then AIR , ends at Q

  • #22209

    rightonthemark
    Participant

    you can always download this.

    load it into your daw and record all the guitars yourself.

    \m/

    rock and roll ain't pretty; that's why they picked us to play it.

  • #22210

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

    ^ I don’t like any of the backing tracks, they don’t ever sync to the track , are off, too long, too short and never the right bpm.  So I won’t use them, but thanks!
    I tried putting a click track to most of the backing tracks on YT and its never on time.
    Even that one is 5 seconds too long. Even the ones that were exact in length the drums never hit on the metronome on time 😛

    But I already posted a hard pan above, superblonde can use that! Password is: !AIRcA3C5O17XLN-FhRv10OwIGHqAnRlPImENZKSuSyQ

  • #22212

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    Ok. The one thing that really stands out, is the really good match of guitar tone.
    I haven’t tried to play ACDC yet (I’m not sure it could fit on my own list, because I try to learn songs I can sing too, and I doubt I’d do ACDC justice there). I could point out things that stand out to my ears, like timing in specific spots. But I think all the details would resolve by playing it every day for a couple months (tho, I’d say keep playing at 80% speed for a while). It’s definitely already as good as the beginner bands I’ve heard. Did you set a goal to play some songs at an open mic for example? This one would be good because you could find a solid backing track with guitar completely removed, play along to the backing track, and it would be a huge crowd pleaser.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #22213

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    I don’t like any of the backing tracks, they don’t ever sync to the track

    I’m not sure I understand the concern there. As long as the drums are good tempo (and sound good, not lame), and vocals are good, then it should be possible to make a good cover. A few songs, like Paranoid, I was learning to a backing track that had a different outro than the album version. No big deal (well, it was confusing at first), I learned both endings and played the appropriate one. Then I started using a Paranoid midi track to do both guitar and vocals, and the midi track had a totally different verse-and-outro length.. again confusing at first but I learned it that way too.

    It kind of seems like wasted time but it isn’t, really. Playing with other people, they’ll sometimes do random different versions like that and it’s important to be able to sync up. Plus, supposedly, it helps learning in general, to shuffle the deck a bit.

    When I learn songs now, I try to find 2-3 slightly different versions to practice to. Album version of course, then an old ‘original era’ live version, and a ‘new era’ live version or maybe someone else’s live version cover. I play along to all 3, then ultimately, pick the one I like best, to base my own final version on. So far the ‘big’ differences have only been things like, the tempo difference, or maybe 1 song section moved around or cut off. Mostly I like the live versions because the drums seem most natural.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #22237

    OldSchoolV86
    Participant

    Hey, great job!

    I look forward to posting my first video sometime in the new year, most likely Zeppelin.

    I liked your natural/relaxed (at least from my perspective) playing style!

    One thing I noticed is that since you were playing along with the song, a few times you seemed to be playing cacth-up to the chord changes or cutting them short, by a fraction of a second. I find my self doing that when I play along!

    I agree with superblonde. You should be able to play along with any track. In real life, bands tends to play their songs at different tempos in concert as opposed to the recording, and in addition, sometimes the tempo changes due to the drumming. Rarely do they play exact tempo to the recording.  I have sat and watched live jams and I think the hardest part for a lot of bedroom guitarists is adjusting their timing to the group of people and even worse, having it change during the song simply due to human “error”. That’s the nature of live playing.

    I liked your guitar tone! The Young brothers use hardly any gain when playing.

    Thanks for sharing!

     

  • #22552

    bdickens
    Participant

    To expand on a point that others have made, Judas Priest plays “Living After Midnight” much differently now than they did on the record or in live perfomances back then.

    Anyway, you did a pretty good job here. My one critcism about your playing here is that it souns a little stiff. But realize that it takes a LOT of practice and playing together  to lock into a groove. This just goes to show how simple things can be really hard to play.

     

    Good job though and keep rockin’!

    Byron Dickens

  • #22553

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

    Sorry , ive had trouble replying. Ive been worrking on basic rhythm exercises from another program not found in the Cbc .

    My whole life, ive not been able to feel or understand rhythm and thats not taught in the course. I understand for MOST of u , its all instinctual. But for me its the hardest thing ive EVER done inmy life and ive spent my whole life trying to understand something  very abstract like rhythm . So if youre saying me playing to a drum track and IMagining what chord or wat note goes with this snare at 1 min 10 seconds, sorry my imagination is too clouded and my skills are far below that. I took a month off because ive been EXTREMELY frustrated with this and find it impossible to imagine chords and notes to a drum track.

     

    If u say i suck then youre right

  • #22554

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

    But thanks for your guys criticisms.

    Right now I’m having horrible tendinitis even with the long break. Even a few minutes of playing is too much. It’s gonna have to wait 🙁

  • #22557

    MotleyCrue81
    Participant

    No one thinks in terms of what happens at 1 minute and 10 seconds on a drum beat. This is just basic 4/4 time stuff, think in terms of measures/groups of measures. But what you’re talking about are kind of two different things. You’re talking about about playing along with a backing track/beat and the other thing you’re talking about is the concept or feel of rhythm itself. Playing with a backing track requires rhythm, and rhythm can be learned with some very easy exercises! You don’t even need to touch your guitar to get the feel for rhythm. I’ll put together a video that should help a ton. Email me at bigfoot958@gmail.com and put together a list of things you’d like too understand.

    Bring hair metal back!

  • #22565

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    Lots of basic-rhythm stuff (meaning, timing of the beats) can be found in intro drum lessons too, like the lessons they’d learn in the first 2-3 weeks. It seems to me that teaching rhythm specifically is pretty rare, anywhere. I have heard that saying, “rhythm is something you either get it, or you don’t, you’re born with it, or you’re not” which is completely untrue because I have seen it taught really well, just very rarely. (For example I remember many swing & salsa dance classes I went to in college etc. I saw some incredibly ‘rhythm-less’ guys and girls, finally get it, but it did take time and very, very basic exercises, and only maybe 1 out of 10 instructors taught it well.) Like patting your head while rubbing your stomach, that kind of “basic rhythm” thing. Or in a music sense, those lessons that are like: “stomp your foot to this beat. Ok, now slap your knee. Ok, now…”

    But otherwise. Things like, if right hand rhythm that doesnt sound consistent when I go back to my own recordings and I wonder why I’m not strumming with correct time at all times (especially while trying to sing), has always come back to practicing 20% slower for a few weeks and then checking my progress again (and if that doesnt work, slowing down even another 20% more for a few weeks).

    The cool thing is that some of these rhythm exercises can be practiced without a guitar. Good ones to do on a long drive too.

    Oh also an example: This one song from my band practice days. I couldn’t play one section fast enough, it had an arpeggio riff, in between playing chords, and I put many many hours into trying to get faster on that part. I simply was not fast enough in terms of dexterity. Yet the band leader was like “no, your rhythm is wrong. you need to play it with the snare. no, the snare, the snare. listen to the snare! go back and listen to the track, it happens on the snare.” That was one of the top 10 most-pissed-off moments for me (altho all I could do, was try to follow his suggestions, not get pissed off). First, I had absolutely no knowledge of what or when the snare was being hit. Secondly, he didn’t recognize that I simply could not play that fast, even if I did know what beat the snare was being played on. These days I’d give him some choice words to make things clear. I mention this just to explain the relationship between speed and having correct rhythm. No one can have correct rhythm if they’re not able to play fast enough.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #22567

    superblonde
    Keymaster

    find it impossible to imagine chords and notes to a drum track.

    Also, if you take a typical slow-blues backing track, and transcribe the drums into GP6, by ear, along with the chords, it could really clear things up. I spent at least 2 weeks transcribing the drum track from a song into GP6, and it was really hard work. Even tho my transcription wasn’t 100% “all fills” correct, it was really helpful to do, in the end.

    Don’t try this with a track where tape editing or electronica was used. I tried to figure out some songs before and only now realize that no one else can figure them out fully either. Some songs that wouldnt normally be expected to be odd ball. There’s a youtube video lesson that dissects a specific section of Master of Puppets (or something) and explains how one section makes no sense in terms of drums. And explains that most guitarists fail to properly play it. Then goes on to explain that the early demo of the song sections were recorded on tape and then the tape was spliced together, which ended up missing a beat or truncating normal timing (or some story like that). Then when the band re-learned the song from the demo tape to make the real studio track, there was this missed beat, that they simply learned to do. This is a problem with simple songs like Beatles too, when they cut the tape and altered timing. That’s my recurring frustrating thing about music by the way: one lesson is some boring thing “okay 1-4-5 played slow” but the real world is some Frank Zappa level thing, “wth?”. Meh.

    I'm an intermediate student of Metal Method. I play seitannic heavy metal. All Kale Seitan! The glutens will be eaten with relish!
    And on the Seventh Day, Mustaine said: ∇ ⨯ E = - ∂B / ∂t ; and there was Thrash; and it had a ♭3; and it was good.

  • #22571

    bdickens
    Participant

    Seems almost TOO obvious in retrospect, but tapping along while you’re  listening to music  – and making a habit of doing so – helps tremendously.

    Byron Dickens

  • #22625

    DanzoStrife2
    Participant

    test

  • #22632

    slash
    Participant

    Nice work, relax don’t get fustrated

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